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On 6/26/2024 at 2:38 PM, Irvin85 said:

Thanks, I will stick to the information I obtained from a person that lived the first 20 years under the Soviet unions control and had direct contact to the sort of behavior. 

I missed this one, but it's a goodie so let's not sweep it back under the carpet @Irvin85.

 

So you're saying,

*Russian female athletes were "forced" to get pregnant before big events like the olympics, then they would get forced to have an abortion. This whole rigmarole was really good for hormone levels, and "natural doping". This was a brilliant idea because using other methods of doping was just too effective, given the lack of controls and no out of competition testing. It would still be "legal" today (let's cast the moral, practical and ethical concerns aside) but no one seems to be doing it.

*Your wrestling coach from Romania (could totally be this guy who ended up in Limpopo) told you this.

*now obviously wrestling was a male only sport then, and he was from Romania not the Soviet Union team, but let's just paper over that.

* "direct contact" means what, he was one of the lucky guys getting them pregnant at some training camp dorm room? 

 

Come now, the guy is no longer with us, but since he didn't take his secrets to the grave, spill the beans. 

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On 8/6/2024 at 7:10 PM, love2fly said:

Please excuse if this has been shared, I DID do a quick scan of recent posts ...

 

That's a very illuminating video. Basically all sport is dirty, but which one is the dirtiest?

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5 hours ago, Shebeen said:

I missed this one, but it's a goodie so let's not sweep it back under the carpet @Irvin85.

 

So you're saying,

*Russian female athletes were "forced" to get pregnant before big events like the olympics, then they would get forced to have an abortion. This whole rigmarole was really good for hormone levels, and "natural doping". This was a brilliant idea because using other methods of doping was just too effective, given the lack of controls and no out of competition testing. It would still be "legal" today (let's cast the moral, practical and ethical concerns aside) but no one seems to be doing it.

*Your wrestling coach from Romania (could totally be this guy who ended up in Limpopo) told you this.

*now obviously wrestling was a male only sport then, and he was from Romania not the Soviet Union team, but let's just paper over that.

* "direct contact" means what, he was one of the lucky guys getting them pregnant at some training camp dorm room? 

 

Come now, the guy is no longer with us, but since he didn't take his secrets to the grave, spill the beans. 

 

*now obviously wrestling was a male only sport then, and he was from Romania not the Soviet Union team, but let's just paper over that. 

Romania only declared their independence from the Soviet union in 1964. if you were born in 1944 then if my math's are correct you spend the first 20 years of your life under Soviet rule?  

I will leave it at that. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Irvin85 said:

 

*now obviously wrestling was a male only sport then, and he was from Romania not the Soviet Union team, but let's just paper over that. 

Romania only declared their independence from the Soviet union in 1964. if you were born in 1944 then if my math's are correct you spend the first 20 years of your life under Soviet rule?  

I will leave it at that. 

 

 

@Irvin85 and you DELIVER as expected!

But you did not answer the actual question, I'll repeat it in bold so you can work out how to answer it: what did your direct source tell you that you can conclusively say that abortion doping was an actual thing (pick any country).

Let's call this one Q1:

 

ok, back to the nitpicking, let's go back to the politics then. I'm confused as to how both the USSR and Romania competed at the olympics before Romania independance. Like in Helsinki 1952 (there are others)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nations_at_the_1952_Summer_Olympics

I would have said you can ignore this one, but since you chose it as the only bit to address earlier despite me saying "let's paper over it", let's have at it, call it Q2:

 

and finally, if "Abortion doping" was an actual thing as you claim, why don't we see it these days (or is it just "under the covers" - pun fully intended)?

let's call that Q3: 

Look forward to your expert answers

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