Patchelicious Posted October 2, 2018 Share Would you have seen this as competing if he won?Surely a podium at Dr Evil could be seen as competing? GaryvdM, FootballingCyclist, SteveS and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted October 2, 2018 Share I'm not aware of any event where he was allowed to compete. I am aware of Dr. Evil Stage race and K2C where he participated as a fun rider. Have we heard from Kevin in this matter? Wheres the two-sides-to-every-story party? Are they batting for the other side on this matter?This conversations stopped being about Kevin long ago. It’s now mostly about your weak arguments and insults. tux26, peetwindhoek, nathrix and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 2, 2018 Share Surely a podium at Dr Evil could be seen as competing? hmmmm ok yes you win. He was competing /participating as a fun rider in a fun event which is not allowed by the Bikehub Cycling Commission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 2, 2018 Share This conversations stopped being about Kevin long ago. It’s now mostly about your weak arguments and insults. argh sorry man, didn't get that memo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted October 2, 2018 Share hmmmm ok yes you win. He was competing /participating as a fun rider in a fun event which is not allowed by the Bikehub Cycling Commission.He is allowed to ride within the rules, but people are also allowed voicing their opinions about it. Edited October 2, 2018 by Patchelicious Quagga, intern, BigDL and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrightJnr Posted October 2, 2018 Share How does what Kevin did (ride in this event) differ from Lance who rides in quite a few events. The 24 hour MTB Old Pueblo for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted October 2, 2018 Share How does what Kevin did (ride in this event) differ from Lance who rides in quite a few events. The 24 hour MTB Old Pueblo for example?It is the same thing, but since we are not USA we are more worried / opinionated about what is going on on home soil. Your comments reminds me when I say "road rule in SA is not enforce and the roads are going to Sh1t3" and someone replieds...... "you must see what "some crappy country" roads look like" ME: i dont give a flying ****** about that country atm, as I dont drive there daily" Edit: Removed last sentence Edited October 2, 2018 by Quagga intern and GaryvdM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted October 2, 2018 Share Always the whataboutery... intern, thisismyotherbike, Patchelicious and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted October 2, 2018 Share I'm not aware of any event where he was allowed to compete. I am aware of Dr. Evil Stage race and K2C where he participated as a fun rider. Sigh - Are we back to this old tired argument? L46, BigDL and Quagga 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrightJnr Posted October 2, 2018 Share It is the same thing, but since we are not USA we are more worried / opinionated about what is going on on home soil. Your comments reminds me when I say "road rule in SA is not enforce and the roads are going to Sh1t3" and someone replieds...... "you must see what "some crappy country" roads look like" ME: i dont give a flying ****** about that country atm, as I dont drive there daily" Edit: Removed last sentenceI think you read too much into my question. You answered it in your first sentence. The rest of your post is related to how you and some others feel about the topic but has nothing to do with my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted October 2, 2018 Share I think you read too much into my question. You answered it in your first sentence. The rest of your post is related to how you and some others feel about the topic but has nothing to do with my question.Not really, it is about how little I care ATM about what Lance and "any other suspended rider outside this country" does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted October 2, 2018 Share It's an ego thing. 'I'm not allowed to race because I was a lying, cheating piece of scum, but I'm going to ride in unsanctioned races because I can, even though I'm banned, but it's not sanctioned so I can fuel my ego and beat a few people and still say things like, 'I'm not racing and I STILL beat all these chumps' in a non race race'.... Why else would you participate in an event while banned? Riding my bike is fun. Riding races is not anywhere near as fun as just riding my bike. A mass participation event usually has pretty average km in it. A 24 hour race solo is also definitely not 'fun'. Ego. It's ego. So KE/LA want to stoke their ego's while banned doing the thing they are banned from doing because they are big dirty cheats. They are not earning money from it anymore, so the incentive is not what it used to be. LA with a life ban is probably a different kettle of fish, but KE could just wait till his ban was over. It's only a few months away. Flemish Lion, Quagga and intern 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted October 2, 2018 Share https://cyclingtips.com/2018/10/the-weekly-spin-the-alejandro-valverde-conundrum/ The Alejandro Valverde conundrumby Neal Rogers....But, as one person commented on Twitter, there is no rule saying an athlete “must grovel” after being suspended for doping: “He did his time, and he has had zero scandals since. He doesn’t owe you, the sport, or anyone else an apology.” And that’s correct. Valverde doesn’t owe anyone an apology. But fans don’t owe him their support, either. Everyone’s entitled to react to his world title in their own way. There is no clean, easy answer to this. It all comes down to the court of public opinion. Everyone gets a vote. Edited October 2, 2018 by GaryvdM Nibali, intern, BigDL and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted October 2, 2018 Share https://cyclingtips.com/2018/10/the-weekly-spin-the-alejandro-valverde-conundrum/Yeah, but he isn't still banned and riding in races..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The expat cyclist Posted October 2, 2018 Share Social justice. I don’t know if it is a term? If it aint, I am coining it.I need to draw a very unfortunate parallel between the Dros rapist and dopers.When the story broke about the Dros rapist, people were looking for more blood too flow. I was looking at social media and I thought: Damn. This oke has no where to run. His face was plastered everywhere...when you google his name, this is what he will be known for. On his facebook profile, there was a section where he announced he got engaged. The comments on that balooned to over 12k comments before his profile was deleted. Those comments where not along the line of: congrats.wishing you all the best. Maybe in the future this social justice penalty is a good sanction against someone. Not being able to hide. Ever.They will walk past you and you will see them looking at you. Their eyes following you. Talking about you behind your back. Trying to defend yourself and your actions on social media... In 2018, people do things for likes and kudos...it is a fact. Having likes, kudos, followers and friends make us feel socailly connected. we feel rejected when we don’t get it anymore, when we become social outcasts. Maybe this is the real penalty.Riding past a previous doper with socks that scream: dopers suck...maybe getting your feelings hurt on social media is going to be a thing for our children. We might not care, but your socially media connected children will. Would you want your kid to grow up and have the world know a really crappy story about daddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisismyotherbike Posted October 2, 2018 Share I'm not aware of any event where he was allowed to compete. I am aware of Dr. Evil Stage race and K2C where he participated as a fun rider. Have we heard from Kevin in this matter? Wheres the two-sides-to-every-story party? Are they batting for the other side on this matter? Nope he was competing, came in 3rd. That comes with a medal and an envelope. Check around 8:00 mark https://www.facebook.com/drevilclassic/videos/2129288010424491/ As an aside, don't know if this was isolated to Dr Evil and K2C or not. Scott and The Bike Shop were sponsors to both events and the Bike Shop management was obviously very involved in Dr Evil especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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