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[patches]

On 6/11/2021 at 9:17 PM, Steven Knoetze (sk27) said:

Not a keyless chuck fan.

Yeah, generally I have found keyless chucks to have a couple of issues. The biggest one being the self loosening that can occur when one has larger bits in the jaws (I'm guessing this is why you are not a keyless chuck fan).

I have this issue occasionally on my cordless hand drill when I use it for mixing drywall compound (I know, not the ideal use of said drill). If I don't triple tighten the chuck it inevitable work its way loose when I switch between CW and CCW mixing.

However this little Bosch drill press, the keyless chuck has a few extra features to try mitigate this, as illustrated in my beutifully annotated diagram below ????

1. Top ring to aid in tightening.
2. Lock ring to prevent self-loosening
3. Radial holes which I guess are to allow the insertion of a lever (allen key, etc) for additional tightening.

But yeah, keyed chucks are a fair bit more robust.

So far I've only used the drill for 8mm and 40mm holes in walnut. No issues with self-loosening yet.

Edited June 14, 2021 by patches

[Rocket-Boy]

12 hours ago, patches said:

Yeah, generally I have found keyless chucks to have a couple of issues. The biggest one being the self loosening that can occur when one has larger bits in the jaws (I'm guessing this is why you are not a keyless chuck fan).

I have this issue occasionally on my cordless hand drill when I use it for mixing drywall compound (I know, not the ideal use of said drill). If I don't triple tighten the chuck it inevitable work its way loose when I switch between CW and CCW mixing.

However this little Bosch drill press, the keyless chuck has a few extra features to try mitigate this, as illustrated in my beutifully annotated diagram below ????

1. Top ring to aid in tightening.
2. Lock ring to prevent self-loosening
3. Radial holes which I guess are to allow the insertion of a lever (allen key, etc) for additional tightening.

But yeah, keyed chucks are a fair bit more robust.

So far I've only used the drill for 8mm and 40mm holes in walnut. No issues with self-loosening yet.

I looked pretty hard at this before buying a floor standing drill press. The variable speed is great and its a nice accurate unit, I just wanted something a little bigger.

Ideally the Nova Voyager would have been my choice, but at R36k for a drill press its a little steep!

[patches]

11 hours ago, Rocket-Boy said:

I looked pretty hard at this before buying a floor standing drill press. The variable speed is great and its a nice accurate unit, I just wanted something a little bigger.

Ideally the Nova Voyager would have been my choice, but at R36k for a drill press its a little steep!

Yeah, the Novas are awesome. My local Men's Shed has a Viking (not quite as cool as the Voyager, but still great), so there is that option if I really need.

One-day when I'm rich and have space, right ????

[Rocket-Boy]

11 hours ago, patches said:

Yeah, the Novas are awesome. My local Men's Shed has a Viking (not quite as cool as the Voyager, but still great), so there is that option if I really need.

One-day when I'm rich and have space, right ????

One-day... I have that problem with too many things, bigger 3 vessel craft brewing system(+_R50k) woodwork tools, metal lathe, gaming pc upgrades, fishing gear etc etc etc. 

Too many hobbies, not enough space for them or money to sink in. It seems with every hobby, it can get as expensive as you like if you really get into it.

[dev null]

Asking questions here.

The book cases are almost done. My son said he wants a natural finish. So my preference has always been Danish Oil. Reason being that I try to stay from sprayed on finishes like water-based varnish as much as possible because of my Asthma. But I can always make exceptions if you people recon it is better for that application.

There is also the wipe-on varnish option. But I have not yet been able to find those here.

What do you think?

Edited June 16, 2021 by dev null

[Berg Man]

2 hours ago, dev null said:

Asking questions here.

The book cases are almost done. My son said he wants a natural finish. So my preference has always been Danish Oil. Reason being that I try to stay from sprayed on finishes like water-based varnish as much as possible because of my Asthma. But I can always make exceptions if you people recon it is better for that application.

There is also the wipe-on varnish option. But I have not yet been able to find those here.

What do you think?

Have you tried Osmo yet?

[dev null]

1 hour ago, Berg Man said:

Have you tried Osmo yet?

Nope.

[Rocket-Boy]

5 hours ago, dev null said:

Asking questions here.

The book cases are almost done. My son said he wants a natural finish. So my preference has always been Danish Oil. Reason being that I try to stay from sprayed on finishes like water-based varnish as much as possible because of my Asthma. But I can always make exceptions if you people recon it is better for that application.

There is also the wipe-on varnish option. But I have not yet been able to find those here.

What do you think?

The answer is always Danish Oil. In some countries it gets referred to as wiping varnish, but its always a oil based varnish blended with drying oils and solvents.

If you want a natural finish then nothing beats it in my opinion.

[patches]

12 hours ago, Rocket-Boy said:

One-day... I have that problem with too many things, bigger 3 vessel craft brewing system(+_R50k) woodwork tools, metal lathe, gaming pc upgrades, fishing gear etc etc etc. 

Too many hobbies, not enough space for them or money to sink in. It seems with every hobby, it can get as expensive as you like if you really get into it.

I was thinking about this the other night, and how the kitchen cabinet installer jokingly said "you have more tools than I do" when walking through my garage to lay down the cabinetry.

I start feeling guilty for having 3 battery powered nail guns (18Ga, 15Ga, and Framing, the latter 2 of which have probably fired under 50 nails combined).

I feel guilty for having some awesome tools which are massively underutilised, not because I am disinterested, but because my needs are sporadic.

But just when I'm thinking "imagine how much cash and space I can free up if I sell some of them", I rebuff myself with "hell no, what if I need it for [some obscure project in the distant future]", or "if I lose my job as a desk-jockey, I could always become a handy-man for hire" ????

 

[patches]

Lending Tools...

What's your policy on lending tools to friends?

I'm sure we all have that one friend (often more than one) that kinda knows enough to be dangerous and has never been wiling to invest in their own tools because they rely on the fact you have the tools they need and they'll just bum them off you.

I have this fairly frequently and for the most part I have mitigated this by saying "come over to my house and we'll work on it together" or "the local Men's Shed has way better tools for the job and the membership is reasonable" (45 NZD/year).

But lately the challenge is that this particular individual is wanting to lend tools relating to an onsite build, so both the above solutions are invalid. My concerns are 3 fold:

• injury to person due to inexperience on using dangerous specialised tools
• damage/loss of tools and cost to replace (tools requested total approx R20,000 in replacement value)
• inconvenience of not having tools available should I need them

The guy is a long term mate and doesn't want to intentionally cause me grief. I'm just conscious that I am becoming the local tool-library and the above-mentioned concerns grow each time.

Interested to hear your stances on things like this?!

[PhilipV]

7 hours ago, patches said:

Lending Tools...

What's your policy on lending tools to friends?

I'm sure we all have that one friend (often more than one) that kinda knows enough to be dangerous and has never been wiling to invest in their own tools because they rely on the fact you have the tools they need and they'll just bum them off you.

I have this fairly frequently and for the most part I have mitigated this by saying "come over to my house and we'll work on it together" or "the local Men's Shed has way better tools for the job and the membership is reasonable" (45 NZD/year).

But lately the challenge is that this particular individual is wanting to lend tools relating to an onsite build, so both the above solutions are invalid. My concerns are 3 fold:

• injury to person due to inexperience on using dangerous specialised tools
• damage/loss of tools and cost to replace (tools requested total approx R20,000 in replacement value)
• inconvenience of not having tools available should I need them

The guy is a long term mate and doesn't want to intentionally cause me grief. I'm just conscious that I am becoming the local tool-library and the above-mentioned concerns grow each time.

Interested to hear your stances on things like this?!

Tell him  to rent it from a tool rental place because you are not lending out tools. Period. 

I'd that has an affect on your friendship, then it needs re-evaluation. 

[stefmeister]

7 hours ago, patches said:

Lending Tools...

What's your policy on lending tools to friends?

I'm sure we all have that one friend (often more than one) that kinda knows enough to be dangerous and has never been wiling to invest in their own tools because they rely on the fact you have the tools they need and they'll just bum them off you.

I have this fairly frequently and for the most part I have mitigated this by saying "come over to my house and we'll work on it together" or "the local Men's Shed has way better tools for the job and the membership is reasonable" (45 NZD/year).

But lately the challenge is that this particular individual is wanting to lend tools relating to an onsite build, so both the above solutions are invalid. My concerns are 3 fold:

• injury to person due to inexperience on using dangerous specialised tools
• damage/loss of tools and cost to replace (tools requested total approx R20,000 in replacement value)
• inconvenience of not having tools available should I need them

The guy is a long term mate and doesn't want to intentionally cause me grief. I'm just conscious that I am becoming the local tool-library and the above-mentioned concerns grow each time.

Interested to hear your stances on things like this?!

No, never. Can't stress this enough. Do so at your own peril, but know that the outcome is always going to be the same; if your tools aren't damaged or lost, they'll just keep on borrowing it until it's broken or lost. Worst case, they can't even afford/aren't willing to repair or replace damaged/lost tools, then what happens?

There should be a tool hire place like Coastal or Talisman they can use. How do you in any case start a project without the necessary equipment?

My uncle borrowed my dad's circular saw to rip some beams. Burnt out the motor coz he's an idiot. He actually offered to pay for the replacement, but when he learned how much a new Makita costs, he just said, wow that's crazy expensive. Never saw a cent contributed, but still had the audacity to ask to borrow his saw again later.

  

 

[Rocket-Boy]

11 hours ago, patches said:

I was thinking about this the other night, and how the kitchen cabinet installer jokingly said "you have more tools than I do" when walking through my garage to lay down the cabinetry.

I start feeling guilty for having 3 battery powered nail guns (18Ga, 15Ga, and Framing, the latter 2 of which have probably fired under 50 nails combined).

I feel guilty for having some awesome tools which are massively underutilised, not because I am disinterested, but because my needs are sporadic.

But just when I'm thinking "imagine how much cash and space I can free up if I sell some of them", I rebuff myself with "hell no, what if I need it for [some obscure project in the distant future]", or "if I lose my job as a desk-jockey, I could always become a handy-man for hire" ????

 

Yeah for sure, I was at my mom's place yesterday putting up some bathroom fittings.

I needed a few sized tile bits(which I had) to get the job done, I then started thinking about how hard those jobs used to be without the correct tools. I dont use all of them often, but I know they are there for when I do need them.

[The Ouzo]

8 hours ago, patches said:

Lending Tools...

What's your policy on lending tools to friends?

I'm sure we all have that one friend (often more than one) that kinda knows enough to be dangerous and has never been wiling to invest in their own tools because they rely on the fact you have the tools they need and they'll just bum them off you.

I have this fairly frequently and for the most part I have mitigated this by saying "come over to my house and we'll work on it together" or "the local Men's Shed has way better tools for the job and the membership is reasonable" (45 NZD/year).

But lately the challenge is that this particular individual is wanting to lend tools relating to an onsite build, so both the above solutions are invalid. My concerns are 3 fold:

• injury to person due to inexperience on using dangerous specialised tools
• damage/loss of tools and cost to replace (tools requested total approx R20,000 in replacement value)
• inconvenience of not having tools available should I need them

The guy is a long term mate and doesn't want to intentionally cause me grief. I'm just conscious that I am becoming the local tool-library and the above-mentioned concerns grow each time.

Interested to hear your stances on things like this?!

Before I was even a teenager I learnt not to loan tools out.

I had bought myself a foot pump for pumping up my BMX tyres from my hard earned pocket money. A neighbour/friend asked to use it one day, he returned it broken.

Never again. 

[Rocket-Boy]

8 hours ago, patches said:

Lending Tools...

What's your policy on lending tools to friends?

I'm sure we all have that one friend (often more than one) that kinda knows enough to be dangerous and has never been wiling to invest in their own tools because they rely on the fact you have the tools they need and they'll just bum them off you.

I have this fairly frequently and for the most part I have mitigated this by saying "come over to my house and we'll work on it together" or "the local Men's Shed has way better tools for the job and the membership is reasonable" (45 NZD/year).

But lately the challenge is that this particular individual is wanting to lend tools relating to an onsite build, so both the above solutions are invalid. My concerns are 3 fold:

• injury to person due to inexperience on using dangerous specialised tools
• damage/loss of tools and cost to replace (tools requested total approx R20,000 in replacement value)
• inconvenience of not having tools available should I need them

The guy is a long term mate and doesn't want to intentionally cause me grief. I'm just conscious that I am becoming the local tool-library and the above-mentioned concerns grow each time.

Interested to hear your stances on things like this?!

I have borrowed tools in the past that died when I was using them, it ended up costing me a replacement of some really old tool that I could have bought for myself.

So personally I dont like to borrow tools. If its a low use/single use tool then I buy something from Adendorff, Im sure NZ has something similar.

With regards to lending tools, I have always taken the approach of "I will come help" or "pop around and we will do it together"

Fortunately that has always been enough and I havent had to to lend tools out without me being around to make sure they are looked after.

[dev null]

10 hours ago, patches said:

Lending Tools...

What's your policy on lending tools to friends?

I'm sure we all have that one friend (often more than one) that kinda knows enough to be dangerous and has never been wiling to invest in their own tools because they rely on the fact you have the tools they need and they'll just bum them off you.

I have this fairly frequently and for the most part I have mitigated this by saying "come over to my house and we'll work on it together" or "the local Men's Shed has way better tools for the job and the membership is reasonable" (45 NZD/year).

But lately the challenge is that this particular individual is wanting to lend tools relating to an onsite build, so both the above solutions are invalid. My concerns are 3 fold:

• injury to person due to inexperience on using dangerous specialised tools
• damage/loss of tools and cost to replace (tools requested total approx R20,000 in replacement value)
• inconvenience of not having tools available should I need them

The guy is a long term mate and doesn't want to intentionally cause me grief. I'm just conscious that I am becoming the local tool-library and the above-mentioned concerns grow each time.

Interested to hear your stances on things like this?!

There are 2 things a man never lends out: his wife and his tools.

I have learnt my lessons.