Icycling Posted November 14, 2016 Share What "sauna at gym" has benefits, time to dust off my gym membership card."One study demonstrated that a 30-minute sauna session two times a week for three weeks POST-workout increased the time that it took for study participants to run until exhaustion by 32% compared to baseline.4 The 32% increase in running endurance found in this particular study was accompanied by a 7.1% increase in plasma volume and 3.5% increase in red blood cell (RBC) count.4 This increased red blood cell count accompanying these performance gains feed right back into those more general mechanisms we talked about earlier, the most obvious of which being: more red blood cells increase oxygen delivery to muscles. It is thought that heat acclimation boosts the RBC count through erythropoietin (EPO) because the body is trying to compensate for the corresponding rise in plasma volume.4 (Note from Tim: If “EPO” sounds familiar, it’s because it’s commonly injected by Tour de France competitors. More on that here.) In other words, hyperthermic conditioning through sauna use doesn’t just make you better at dealing with heat; it makes you better, period. I do want to mention that while these gains were made with a small sample size (N=6) some of the later studies that I point out reinforce this conclusion" But there quite a few studies on this (google it - there quite a bit of info). On a personnel level I have noticed thou Blood tests and using a Sauna my Haematocrit and been tested at 50 - this was the legal limit of been safe before they could test for EPO. Edited November 14, 2016 by Icycling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted November 14, 2016 Share Its always somebody else's fault. EmptyB, TALUS, Bloukrans and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted November 14, 2016 Share "One study demonstrated that a 30-minute sauna session two times a week for three weeks POST-workout increased the time that it took for study participants to run until exhaustion by 32% compared to baseline.4 The 32% increase in running endurance found in this particular study was accompanied by a 7.1% increase in plasma volume and 3.5% increase in red blood cell (RBC) count.4 This increased red blood cell count accompanying these performance gains feed right back into those more general mechanisms we talked about earlier, the most obvious of which being: more red blood cells increase oxygen delivery to muscles. It is thought that heat acclimation boosts the RBC count through erythropoietin (EPO) because the body is trying to compensate for the corresponding rise in plasma volume.4 (Note from Tim: If “EPO” sounds familiar, it’s because it’s commonly injected by Tour de France competitors. More on that here.) In other words, hyperthermic conditioning through sauna use doesn’t just make you better at dealing with heat; it makes you better, period. I do want to mention that while these gains were made with a small sample size (N=6) some of the later studies that I point out reinforce this conclusion" But there quite a few studies on this (google it - there quite a bit of info).I typed this into the banned substance list and nothing came up.... Wil6 and Ofaniy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted November 14, 2016 Share Pseudo ephedrine is one of those "too easily available" drugs. It's in tons of stuff. Rules are rules though - it was in her body so she needs to take the knock. Learn the lesson though - read the label - ALWAYS read the label. Bloukrans and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Flyers Posted November 14, 2016 Share Do the drug tester ask the athletics, if they have been taking any tablets for the past 3-6 months, so that they will know if they are guilty or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icycling Posted November 14, 2016 Share Do the drug tester ask the athletics, if they have been taking any tablets for the past 3-6 months, so that they will know if they are guilty or not?Yes they do - you are meant to disclose what you have been using. American Flyers and Andrew Steer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted November 14, 2016 Share Do the drug tester ask the athletics, if they have been taking any tablets for the past 3-6 months, so that they will know if they are guilty or not?Yip.On the form you have to tell them what you have used during a 2 week window. Andrew Steer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popit Posted November 14, 2016 Share A few years back my Daughter was a fairly competitive swimmer and had been tested from the age of 13 at various gala's . EVERY time she had to take any form of medication we would first phone our GP and get him to confirm if it was ok or not . I feel this is a small responsibility for EVERY serious athlete .Saves a lot of ''explaining " down the line . We were also fully aware that many OTC medications have banned substances in them . Patchelicious, Wil6, Andrew Steer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Steer Posted November 14, 2016 Share I can't understand how little these athletes value their careers...You train hours and hours, day after day, but you can't take 3 minutes to check if a medicine is banned. Lovely person... wish it wasn't so. olffie1, Pure Savage, Patchelicious and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Steer Posted November 14, 2016 Share Yes they do - you are meant to disclose what you have been using.And did she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky4130 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Was the original article edited? Edited November 14, 2016 by milky4130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted November 14, 2016 Share "One study demonstrated that a 30-minute sauna session two times a week for three weeks POST-workout increased the time that it took for study participants to run until exhaustion by 32% compared to baseline.4 The 32% increase in running endurance found in this particular study was accompanied by a 7.1% increase in plasma volume and 3.5% increase in red blood cell (RBC) count.4 This increased red blood cell count accompanying these performance gains feed right back into those more general mechanisms we talked about earlier, the most obvious of which being: more red blood cells increase oxygen delivery to muscles. It is thought that heat acclimation boosts the RBC count through erythropoietin (EPO) because the body is trying to compensate for the corresponding rise in plasma volume.4 (Note from Tim: If “EPO” sounds familiar, it’s because it’s commonly injected by Tour de France competitors. More on that here.) In other words, hyperthermic conditioning through sauna use doesn’t just make you better at dealing with heat; it makes you better, period. I do want to mention that while these gains were made with a small sample size (N=6) some of the later studies that I point out reinforce this conclusion" But there quite a few studies on this (google it - there quite a bit of info). On a personnel level I have noticed thou Blood tests and using a Sauna my Haematocrit and been tested at 50 - this was the legal limit of been safe before they could test for EPO. Wow! For those interested in the study mentioned, here it is: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1440244006001393 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icycling Posted November 14, 2016 Share And did she?I don't know - but I am not sure if it changes anything at all in SAIDS eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted November 14, 2016 Share I don't know - but I am not sure if it changes anything at all in SAIDS eyes!But she left it off, it does change the "intentional vs non-intentional" arguement a bit. Andrew Steer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donovan Le Cok Posted November 14, 2016 Share There was mention a few times early in the thread of "her statement". Can somebody please post a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonky Posted November 14, 2016 Share Its always somebody else's fault.Shaggy defence Patchelicious and pe3nguin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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