ChrisF Posted May 6 Share 57 minutes ago, Frosty said: Would be interesting to see how many “gamers” there are vs people who train for the sake of training (not a game). For me, the only reason to get on the trainer is to get some quality work done. I don’t race virtually, so being able to control an avatar is not required. My thoughts as well. But then I dont think we are the target market for these gadgets ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HdB Posted May 6 Share 1 hour ago, Frosty said: Would be interesting to see how many “gamers” there are vs people who train for the sake of training (not a game). For me, the only reason to get on the trainer is to get some quality work done. I don’t race virtually, so being able to control an avatar is not required. Well, after my TrainerRoad workout last night (an easy endurance workout mind you), I went to IndieVelo to check something, and decided to join a 2-lap velodrome race. A minute and 14 at over 7w/kg is not my definition of a game 🤢 During 2020 I joined a quite a few races on Zwift, but it was rarely anything but flat out all the way. Since then I've stuck almost exclusively with TrainerRoad - no burnout and actual progress. Only been using IndieVelo for a few months and I haven't done a lot of races, but so far I've had a few that were actually fun (even races that were just me against the rather clever/sneaky bots). As much as I like TrainerRoad, for the real crit series later in the year I am considering creating my own event(s) on IndieVelo, maybe on the South Lake loop, to prep myself for the torture of dealing with attacks for 30-40 minutes. Edit - Not really much of a point to my rambling, and I'm sure you are not looking down on those who just ride or race on Zwift/Rouvy/etc and aren't into structured training. As long as we enjoy racing/riding/training/all of the above Edited May 6 by HdB mecheng89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 7 Share On 5/6/2024 at 12:07 PM, Mongoose! said: Today is Monday Frosty not Friday!!🙃 What happens on Fridays? askingforafriend 🤣 Jakkals. and Mongoose! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmarc Posted May 7 Share On 5/6/2024 at 12:18 PM, HdB said: Well, after my TrainerRoad workout last night (an easy endurance workout mind you), I went to IndieVelo to check something, and decided to join a 2-lap velodrome race. A minute and 14 at over 7w/kg is not my definition of a game 🤢 During 2020 I joined a quite a few races on Zwift, but it was rarely anything but flat out all the way. Since then I've stuck almost exclusively with TrainerRoad - no burnout and actual progress. Only been using IndieVelo for a few months and I haven't done a lot of races, but so far I've had a few that were actually fun (even races that were just me against the rather clever/sneaky bots). As much as I like TrainerRoad, for the real crit series later in the year I am considering creating my own event(s) on IndieVelo, maybe on the South Lake loop, to prep myself for the torture of dealing with attacks for 30-40 minutes. Edit - Not really much of a point to my rambling, and I'm sure you are not looking down on those who just ride or race on Zwift/Rouvy/etc and aren't into structured training. As long as we enjoy racing/riding/training/all of the above For me - Training in TR with a colpased screen while i'm riding around in ZWIFT at the same time is the only thing that keeps me riding on an IDT - I think the perfect platform is ZWIFT with TR fully intergrated or visa versa - Sadly we won't see that anytime in the near future The double subscription is hurting the wallet though Edited May 7 by madmarc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted May 7 Share 14 minutes ago, madmarc said: For me - Training in TR with a colpased screen while i'm riding around in ZWIFT at the same time is the only thing that keeps me riding on an IDT - I think the perfect platform is ZWIFT with TR fully intergrated or visa versa - Sadly we won't see that anytime in the near future The double subscription is hurting the wallet though Potentially coming soon with the Zwift Training API https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/04/structured-training-interesting.html El Duderino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmarc Posted May 7 Share 8 minutes ago, shaper said: Potentially coming soon with the Zwift Training API https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/04/structured-training-interesting.html Interesting - Maybe i eat my words But one would still need to subscribe to both i suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmarc Posted May 8 Share And just when we got excited by the latest upgrades they nock us for an additional $5 / month TR / ZWIFT - TR / ZWIFT - TR / ZWIFT One wil def need to go ! ChrisF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HdB Posted May 8 Share 2 hours ago, madmarc said: And just when we got excited by the latest upgrades they nock us for an additional $5 / month TR / ZWIFT - TR / ZWIFT - TR / ZWIFT One wil def need to go ! I guess you can nearly negate the price increase if you do a yearly subscription instead? I think Zwift is great and does offer a lot; but if it is just your distraction while using TR that costs the same, it is quite a bit of money. I'm not sure if you can do the same with IndieVelo, to have TR control the trainer. But eventually IV will have to cost something as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedal menace Posted May 8 Share 2 hours ago, madmarc said: And just when we got excited by the latest upgrades they nock us for an additional $5 / month TR / ZWIFT - TR / ZWIFT - TR / ZWIFT One wil def need to go ! Yup saw that - so will likely be around $23 after taxes I guess. That is becoming quite steep. Yes one can argue it is the first price increase in (I think) 5 years - but still - that is ouch. FulGaz is a lot cheaper! Guess I will cancel today (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmarc Posted May 8 Share I will give MyWhoosh a try, hopefully i can run TR at the same time like in Zwift Kom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedal menace Posted May 8 Share My membership account now states: I recall it was $14.99 last month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro Posted May 8 Share This is going to be like the DSTV conundrum, so many 'potential' cheaper alternatives yet in reality so few simple alternatives that have the same offering. I'll stick to Zwift for now, its not cheap but I've tried others and keep going back because its the most complete as far as I'm concerned. BigDL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmarc Posted May 8 Share 21 minutes ago, pedal menace said: My membership account now states: I recall it was $14.99 last month You need to add 15% VAT so almost 20 dollar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted May 8 Share 2 hours ago, pedal menace said: My membership account now states: I recall it was $14.99 last month Looking at the dates, think you are paying pro-rata for the increase. Next month may well be 19,99 before exchange rate and taxes .... I can stream MTB races for this increase .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDL Posted May 8 Share Lots of noise online about the Zwift increase. First increase in a number of years during which so much has been added to the platform, but everyone has their own financial situation and priorities to consider when making a decision. NicholasT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffsVintageBikes Posted May 8 Share I'd much rather have a 5% increase per year than a 33% increase out of the blue 😲 BigDL, ChrisF, Sandro and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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