FDP Posted April 16, 2018 Share I’ve been reading up on doing more scientific/structured training. A few coaches refer to a term “junk miles” in their material. Reference is made that “too many athletes do a lot of junk miles and not enough quality miles”. What do they refer to here? My understanding is that it is not all about the total milage that one does but what it consists of. What would be examples of worthless training miles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky4130 Posted April 16, 2018 Share One example would be instead of taking a rest day you agree to do a 2 hour ride with your mate which inevitably turns out to be a little bit harder than it should be. FP1095, Andrew_Smith and Mongoose! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonus Posted April 16, 2018 Share For me, I have a two hour XC circuit from my house. If I ride it hard, it's a training ride. If I ride it "slow but steady" it's a recovery ride. If I ride it very slowly and take photos it's a social ride. However, if I ride it a bit harder than recovery but not hard enough to be proper training, then it's really just a waste of time. Typically this occurs when my head is not in the right place. I end up doing myself more harm than good and the miles covered are junk miles. FDP, Malpiet, Larry King and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky4130 Posted April 16, 2018 Share For me, I have a two hour XC circuit from my house. If I ride it hard, it's a training ride. If I ride it "slow but steady" it's a recovery ride. If I ride it very slowly and take photos it's a social ride. However, if I ride it a bit harder than recovery but not hard enough to be proper training, then it's really just a waste of time. Typically this occurs when my head is not in the right place. I end up doing myself more harm than good and the miles covered are junk miles.nicely said there Bonus, this is exactly what I was trying to say you just brought it across better. Bonus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pusher Posted April 17, 2018 Share For me, I have a two hour XC circuit from my house. If I ride it hard, it's a training ride. If I ride it "slow but steady" it's a recovery ride. If I ride it very slowly and take photos it's a social ride. However, if I ride it a bit harder than recovery but not hard enough to be proper training, then it's really just a waste of time. Typically this occurs when my head is not in the right place. I end up doing myself more harm than good and the miles covered are junk miles.That's just confusion! Malpiet, Bonus and Capricorn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Bird Posted April 17, 2018 Share https://www.bicycling.com/training/fitness/why-there-s-no-such-thing-junk-miles?amp Bonus and J∆kk∆ls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted April 17, 2018 Share IMPOSSIBLE! No miles are junk miles. They are just happy miles. Like Myles. Sniffie, AdamA, shova1 and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted April 17, 2018 Share Junk miles are only junk miles if your aim to get to the absolute best training and fitness out of every ride. If you actually enjoy riding a bicycle there is no such thing as junk miles. I would imagine 99% of miles ridden by non pros or serious athletes would fall into the junk miles category. Edited April 17, 2018 by Eldron Carmichael, Sniffie, Opc_danny and 19 others 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted April 17, 2018 Share Junk miles are only junk miles if your aim to get to the absolute best training and fitness out of every ride. If you actually enjoy riding a bicycle there is no such thing as junk miles. I would imagine 99% of miles ridden by non pros or serious athletes would fall into the junk miles category.THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS JUNK MILES!#SHOUTING *dont forge to smile or insert humour* Malpiet, gogo@, Albatross and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted April 17, 2018 Share THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS JUNK MILES!#SHOUTING *dont forge to smile or insert humour*#junkmilesmustfall Bonus, Underachiever, dirtypot and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuke Posted April 17, 2018 Share haha, there is a few simple things to cut out most of the junk miles, If you are doing training rides don't go below zone 2 and keep pedaling , If you recover between intervals don't stop pedaling keep going and recover in zone 1. Downhills you keep pedaling till the speed is too high or whatever stops you. Incorporate some speed pedaling drills on downhills. So in a nutshell don't free on the bike just keep pedaling with resistance. Bonus and Opc_danny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC-Diesel Posted April 17, 2018 Share To damn complicated.Ride the bike.- Feel good, go harder.- Want to chat, chat.- See a hill, do it.- Need coffee, cruise.- Have a friend, help. ~End~ HowardSteele, BigDL, Grogs and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted April 17, 2018 Share #junkmilesmustfall#happymilesmustrise BigDL and cat-i 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babse Posted April 17, 2018 Share running = junk miles Li Mu Bai, Eddy Gordo, GSG and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan_Kleynhans Posted April 17, 2018 Share GSG, BigDL, Andrew_Smith and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose! Posted April 17, 2018 Share I did one junk mile this weekend.It was during the Double 90 event at Clarens.In Golden Gate there is a climb called the :Mineshaft"...Its about a mile long (maybe shorter)... at 17% it can be considered as a junk mile... Edited April 17, 2018 by Mongoose! Saag, Bonus, tjommies3 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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