Stretch Posted January 14, 2019 Share Bit scarey how everyone glosses over the assault to discuss how they may or may not have been cycling as though trying to explain the assault. If someone broke into your house and stole your belongings you wouldn't ponder over the socioeconomic conditions that led to that..you would discuss the crime. Regardless of everything a criminal assault took place here and this should be foremost in the discussion bikebloke, shaper, Jewbacca and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted January 14, 2019 Share Bit scarey how everyone glosses over the assault to discuss how they may or may not have been cycling as though trying to explain the assault. If someone broke into your house and stole your belongings you wouldn't ponder over the socioeconomic conditions that led to that..you would discuss the crime. Regardless of everything a criminal assault took place here and this should be foremost in the discussionIm am 99% sure that everybody here is very much aligned that an assault is not acceptable and that the driver must face the consequences. Charge has been laid, evidence submitted... What else should we discuss about it? We can discuss how to prevent more of these though. Edited January 14, 2019 by Patchelicious Capricorn, Edge_Design, cat-i and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted January 14, 2019 Share driverless cars. thats the only solution. Strip out the ego from the driving BigDL, MDJ and cat-i 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted January 14, 2019 Share It's largely irrelevant to this thread but please find the law that says that... As far as I am aware you are incorrect. The area within the yellow line serves a specific purpose and it is actually illegal to cycle in it (if the law is applied correctly which it isn't in practice).You are correct, it is actually illegal to ride in the yellow full stop. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted January 14, 2019 Share Im am 99% sure that everybody here is very much aligned that an assault is not acceptable and that the driver must face the consequences. Charge has been laid, evidence submitted... What else should we discuss about it? We can discuss how to prevent more of these though. We need to turn this topic into an argument about the law and riding 2 abreast.Then we need to add a layer of victim blaming.Then we a few guys need to get personal and go on the attack/be offended.Somewhere in between all that, we need to assume what happened before and after the event without being there. Still got plenty to cover and it's only Monday! BigDL, Frank.Hutt, bikebloke and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Guy Posted January 14, 2019 Share Shocking. I have never felt the need to run a cyclist/runner/pedestrian over or get out and bliksem them to prove a point (although it was pretty close that one time I drove past my high school math teacher). Some people are just ignorant, careless and violent. The sooner you learn we share this planet with them the better your own chances of survival. It won't help to shout profanities at them, it won't help to assume that everyone follows the rules, and it won't help to hope that they value your life. I have ridden the road into Jonkers countless times. Every time I wonder, why can't the municipality build a proper cycling/running lane all the way to the Jonkershoek gate at the end? With the number of cyclists on that road over the weekends along with all the blind corners it is getting pretty dangerous there for cars and cyclists alike. MDJ, WeekendWarrior80, Patchelicious and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomo Posted January 14, 2019 Share Another car stopped and 3 more assisted to assault the cyclists.?WTF.!Suspect there must be a whole lot more to this story. As for laws of the road, know them well but ultimately do what you must to be safe. Edited January 14, 2019 by Thomo BigDL, WeekendWarrior80, AdamA and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanC Posted January 14, 2019 Share The driver reported himself to SAPS. The video taken has number plates etc. and with the case underway they don't want to jeopardise this by releasing it now. WeekendWarrior80, Stretch, MDJ and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanC Posted January 14, 2019 Share Pics from Strava. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev null Posted January 14, 2019 Share Pics from Strava. You know it's easier to id this beard than his eyes. Edited January 14, 2019 by Moridin Mopkop, Phatman, Capricorn and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev null Posted January 14, 2019 Share Why do I get the idea that the flipping of a bird was involved somewhere along the line. peetwindhoek, BigDL, sawystertrance and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted January 14, 2019 Share Im am 99% sure that everybody here is very much aligned that an assault is not acceptable and that the driver must face the consequences. Charge has been laid, evidence submitted... What else should we discuss about it? We can discuss how to prevent more of these though. Fair point Patch There is certainly a lot more to it than just the habits of cyclists. For one the lack of proactive traffic policing contributes significantly to the overall tension and ultimately road rage of individual cyclists so motorists take their frustration out on "easy" targets. Patchelicious and Danger Dassie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev null Posted January 14, 2019 Share Me and my wife was cycling to Hels and back on Saturday, and past Coetzenburg came across a group of very slow cyclists across the whole road on both sides, such that we had to squeeze through their group in order to pass them. I can only imagine what would have happened when a car approached them. Edited January 14, 2019 by Moridin Sepia and AdamA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted January 14, 2019 Share for anyone's action, there is a valid reason... but what on earth goes through a person's mind that this is the solution to the current problem? This is madness. I hope the healing, both physically and psychologically, is speedy WeekendWarrior80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 14, 2019 Share So I'm scooting down Steenberg road past Westlake the other day. I'm in the cyclelane doing 50km/hr (its downhill) The offramp for the M3 is ahead and motorists have to turn left. The cycle lane cuts right through it to continue down toward Main Road Kirstenhof.**** in an Audi with the plates "B*D*SS WP coming screaming past on my right as I get to the off ramp and turns hard right. Brushed the car with left elbow (it hurts). Driver was clearly having fun because he made eye contact and smiled just before he turned.these deliberate acts of reckless endangerment are on the increaseYou mean he turned hard left? I'm not sure if you're reffering to the off ramp or the on-ramp. I look at that section of cycle lane, and the both the on and offramp looks like an accident waiting to happen. especially early morning coming from oukaaps side with sun in your eyes a driver will just plough through you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepia Posted January 14, 2019 Share If you are side by side in the yellow lane you not on the roadway and can ride like that. Cyclist are required to be as far left on the ROADWAY as they feel safe. Roadway is from Middle to Yellow line Quagga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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