Motorists vs Cyclists.... again

['Dale]

13 hours ago, Mamil said:

I have secondary trauma seeing that photo and the ones you shared after the crash. 

We keep riding though cos it's lekker. Glad you are recovered and still giving Mrs Dale reassuring calls

Thank you for the tender words, Mamil. Warms my heart.

I know you cover many miles to the moon and back these days - be safe out there.

[The Ouzo]

14 hours ago, Mamil said:

We keep riding though cos it's lekker.

Seeing, hearing and reading about cycling incidents often reminds me of a scene from the movie Days of Thunder where Tom Cruise would not go to the hospital of the fellow driver that was in a bad accident.

We know it happens, we are aware of the dangers, but out of sight out of mind, otherwise it affects your performance.

 

I know I'm still haunted by a few bad crashes on our club rides, to the point where I'm still rather cautious as the speeds creep up and visibility is not great. I'll be riding along in the bunch just fine, somebody will twitch and my mind plays back images of bicycles flying through the air and bodies hitting the ground.

[Puncture Kid]

While moving my daughter into an apartment in Stellies at the start of the year, I was waiting at the Boord robot close to Spar to exit Boord and turn left into R44 towards the town. I waited at the red and then had a green arrow telling me I can go. I checked and proceeded. Suddenly this young idiot on a MTB just barreled across his red (R44 from Strand direction). I almost took him out because I was looking into the turn at the time. He did not stop nor realise I had green...dumbass Drove past him and kakked him out.

[ChrisF]

1 hour ago, The Ouzo said:

Seeing, hearing and reading about cycling incidents often reminds me of a scene from the movie Days of Thunder where Tom Cruise would not go to the hospital of the fellow driver that was in a bad accident.

We know it happens, we are aware of the dangers, but out of sight out of mind, otherwise it affects your performance.

 

I know I'm still haunted by a few bad crashes on our club rides, to the point where I'm still rather cautious as the speeds creep up and visibility is not great. I'll be riding along in the bunch just fine, somebody will twitch and my mind plays back images of bicycles flying through the air and bodies hitting the ground.

 

The physical wounds often heals much faster and better than the mind ....

 

Best wishes to riders and families working through that maze of mind games ....

[Graham W]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BPqaoSAXH/

This is just not on,

[Pieterlab1]

56 minutes ago, Graham W said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BPqaoSAXH/

This is just not on,

This is insane!

I'm sure someone on here knows this guy??

[Dexter-morgan]

Recently 2 cyclists got knocked very badly in the Edenvale area(Gauteng) by a Lady that went across 4 lanes and hit them head on, apparently, she was on some medication, one cyclist is in hospital in an induced coma, other one recovering with a few broken bones.

[The Ouzo]

20 minutes ago, Dexter-morgan said:

Recently 2 cyclists got knocked very badly in the Edenvale area(Gauteng) by a Lady that went across 4 lanes and hit them head on, apparently, she was on some medication, one cyclist is in hospital in an induced coma, other one recovering with a few broken bones.

I was sent the cctv video of this. it is horrendous to watch.

[NGM]

1 hour ago, Graham W said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BPqaoSAXH/

This is just not on,

This guy can make make it right if he is mature enough. If he gives the lady and her daughter a heartfelt apology, admits his guilt (its there for everyone to see, as is his face) and pays double the damages to compensate for the window and all the unnecessary trauma and time wasting...

We can do stupid things when there is a bit too much cortisol in the blood stream. But if you don't own it later once you've processed it then you are a coward and a chop.

[thebob]

31 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

I was sent the cctv video of this. it is horrendous to watch.

Drove past this on the day. Looked very bad. The front of the car was badly mangled and the old lady who was driving it was in a state. Hope both cyclists recover.

[Hairy]

4 hours ago, Graham W said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BPqaoSAXH/

This is just not on,

[RustyHWR]

50 minutes ago, Hairy said:

Yep. Also get the same.

[W@nted]

1 hour ago, Hairy said:

Saw the post earlier, but it has been removed. Video showed a roadie skipping a red light. A lady and her daughter were driving in their car and filmed the incident on their dash cam.  The vehicle had right of way (green arrow at the traffic light), but had to brake in order not to hit the roadie skipping the red light. The vehicle hooted at the roadie, who then proceeded to throw and crack the vehicles windscreen with his water bottle. Crazy man.

[Murrob]

12 minutes ago, W@nted said:

Saw the post earlier, but it has been removed. Video showed a roadie skipping a red light. A lady and her daughter were driving in their car and filmed the incident on their dash cam.  The vehicle had right of way (green arrow at the traffic light), but had to brake in order not to hit the roadie skipping the red light. The vehicle hooted at the roadie, who then proceeded to throw and crack the vehicles windscreen with his water bottle. Crazy man.

Yeah, also caught the pics and videos just before it was taken down. Bang out of order and the cyclist needs to face justice. Of course this will spread like wildfire and be another reason for motorists to hate us. But indefensible from the cyclist. I did see that (I think) Lynwood cycles made a comment to contact them shortly before post was removed. Hoping the guy is trying to make right here for all our sakes. 

Edited Friday at 11:19 AM by Murrob
New thought

[Shebeen]

11 minutes ago, Murrob said:

Yeah, also caught the pics and videos just before it was taken down. Bang out of order and the cyclist needs to face justice. Of course this will spread like wildfire and be another reason for motorists to hate us. But indefensible from the cyclist. I did see that (I think) Lynwood cycles made a comment to contact them shortly before post was removed. Hoping the guy is trying to make right here for all our sakes. 

also didn;t see it, but law abiding cyclists need to do our best to stop this sort of thing. 

 

Guys are gonna be d#$%s, we don;t have to defend them if they are cycling, driving or on the internet. We need to call them out, and do it when we see it on the road. 

Any cyclist who reacts aggressively to a vehicle when there is no contact is a problem

 

 

 

 

[Shebeen]

On 3/2/2025 at 3:54 PM, SCD said:

Some perspective: 

We just came back from 3 years in Canada, Ottawa, or the Quebec part of it called Gatineau, specifically. Canada LOVES their rules. And there are plenty of rules about cycling. You gotta go single file. Groups larger than 15 are prohibited. You have to have a light switched on front and back from 1h before sunset to 1h after dawn. Red lights? Stop signs? You better watch those. The cops are everywhere and quick to nab you. Red lights is a few hundred $ and points off your license. Almost anything in this list is 80$ or 120$. Taking the fun out of things a little. And btw, the drivers are just as much of a threat as here. Only the cars are a LOT bigger. And the road are a lot shittier (not kidding). And a contractor's F350 with a 20ft trailer passing you with 80 with 300mm clearance is happening as often as the same with taxis here. If YOU don't watch it you get killed. The driver surely would get fined. But that doesn't help your corpse. Same as here.

Compared to the rules and fine craziness we enjoy great freedom here. So, just chill a bit. Ride single file on the road already, it doesn't hurt that much. And that urge to skip red lights? Why? I don't get it. I am not surprised that otherwise normal and reasonable drivers get frustrated...

Anyway, flamesuit on. fire away

I spent the summer of 2004 cycling this $25 Diamond back around Vancouver. Then I took it loaded to Alaska on this trip.

 

I rode everywhere and experienced the start of bike culture being seriously embraced as a transport solution, separate lanes/traffic lights even vehicle restricted residential road routes (grid structure makes this easy). Putting your bike on the bike rack on the front of the public bus is an awesome way to unlock huge parts of the city.

They do like their laws, but in my memory cycling was not policed like you describe above. Maybe this is a time warp for what 20 years of behavioral adaption does. I don't see vehicle drivers and cyclists locally working together in the future, we are at war. We don't need more rules, cynical me doesn't see traffic laws of any type ever being seriously policed in sunny south africa.