TheoG Posted May 24, 2023 Share 56 minutes ago, MORNE said: So….either someone’s taking the piss (100% likely), or Summit Bikes are just plain legends (also 100% true) still crazy expensive, but grab it while its hot if you are looking, and save yourself 13….yes R13k!!!! that clearly demonstrates how we get shafted by some local stores imo. Edit: this other store i wont even name…. All I can say is, miskien eendag as ek groot is en baie geld het .... 🤪 devvydoesdonuts, Schnavel, Yyyy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted May 24, 2023 Share On 4/27/2023 at 11:47 AM, ajnkzn said: I’m sorry but it’s useless. Even NX is terrible. Average shifting and doesn’t last. GX bare minimum on SRAM. GX 11 is quite good a durable but it suffers from the same malady all cable operated SRAM shifters do - horrible ergonomics on the release button and the lack of double shifts to higher gears. Maybe that's why they felt compelled to go AXS - couldn't build a decent cable shifter? Yyyy, ChrisF, dasilvarsa and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyrax Posted May 24, 2023 Share 24 minutes ago, Headshot said: GX 11 is quite good a durable but it suffers from the same malady all cable operated SRAM shifters do - horrible ergonomics on the release button and the lack of double shifts to higher gears. Maybe that's why they felt compelled to go AXS - couldn't build a decent cable shifter? Excluding Grip Shifters off course! Headshot, ChrisF, DNC and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted May 24, 2023 Share 17 hours ago, Headshot said: GX 11 is quite good a durable but it suffers from the same malady all cable operated SRAM shifters do - horrible ergonomics on the release button and the lack of double shifts to higher gears. Maybe that's why they felt compelled to go AXS - couldn't build a decent cable shifter? Would you miss double downshifts on a trigger if shimano never invented it ? Just asking genuinely interested DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 24, 2023 Share 7 hours ago, Headshot said: GX 11 is quite good a durable but it suffers from the same malady all cable operated SRAM shifters do - horrible ergonomics on the release button and the lack of double shifts to higher gears. Maybe that's why they felt compelled to go AXS - couldn't build a decent cable shifter? going clickedty click in quick succession to "double shift" is actually a very easy feat ....... you don't by any chance drive an automatic car do you? dasilvarsa, Headshot, Fred van Vlaanderen and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoG Posted May 25, 2023 Share 12 hours ago, BaGearA said: Would you miss double downshifts on a trigger if shimano never invented it ? Just asking genuinely interested Probably yes, fast shifting in some situations are very beneficial, so just maybe I would have had the thought "if only I can shift faster" ... Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted May 25, 2023 Share 14 hours ago, Hairy said: going clickedty click in quick succession to "double shift" is actually a very easy feat ....... you don't by any chance drive an automatic car do you? Could also be a severe case of arthritis. Very possible for people who identify as a 90 year old man. Headshot, Fred van Vlaanderen, Hairy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan A Marais Posted May 25, 2023 Share 27 minutes ago, Wyatt Earp said: Could also be a severe case of arthritis. Very possible for people who identify as a 90 year old man. You talking to me? Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted May 25, 2023 Share 15 minutes ago, Johan A Marais said: You talking to me? How comfy are those shoes ? The Ouzo, Johan A Marais, ChrisF and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIPEOUT 1000 Posted May 25, 2023 Share 16 hours ago, BaGearA said: Would you miss double downshifts on a trigger if shimano never invented it ? Just asking genuinely interested I really like the ability to change gears quickly and this probably the primary reason why I ride Campagnolo on my road and gravel bikes. Being able to drop 5 or go up 3 with a single shift is really convenient. Other than the efficiency thing, it is also one of the main reasons I still ride 2x on my mountain bike, by dropping from the big ring to the small ring you can instantaneously increase your mechanical advantage by 30+%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yyyy Posted May 25, 2023 Share 1 hour ago, WIPEOUT 1000 said: I really like the ability to change gears quickly and this probably the primary reason why I ride Campagnolo on my road and gravel bikes. Being able to drop 5 or go up 3 with a single shift is really convenient. Other than the efficiency thing, it is also one of the main reasons I still ride 2x on my mountain bike, by dropping from the big ring to the small ring you can instantaneously increase your mechanical advantage by 30+%. give it a few years, im sure 2x will make a comeback as some sort of new tech Zebra, Mtree, DieselnDust and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardio Goth Posted May 25, 2023 Share 6 hours ago, Yyyy said: give it a few years, im sure 2x will make a comeback as some sort of new tech Ahem.. Classified Powershift would like a word 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 25, 2023 Share 9 hours ago, WIPEOUT 1000 said: I really like the ability to change gears quickly and this probably the primary reason why I ride Campagnolo on my road and gravel bikes. Being able to drop 5 or go up 3 with a single shift is really convenient. Other than the efficiency thing, it is also one of the main reasons I still ride 2x on my mountain bike, by dropping from the big ring to the small ring you can instantaneously increase your mechanical advantage by 30+%. Or better yet, a gearbox bike in your future .... you can even dump all those gears whilst standing still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted May 26, 2023 Share On 5/24/2023 at 7:01 PM, Hairy said: going clickedty click in quick succession to "double shift" is actually a very easy feat ....... you don't by any chance drive an automatic car do you? I do when its working but I'm a manual lover at heart. Ordinarily I'd agree with you but the ergonomics on the GX 11 shifter are so shite that its a pain to do quick clicks. Also, when you have something as silky smooth and hand friendly as a Saint 10 speed shifter on your other bike, the GX is just horrid. Would I miss it it it hadn't been invented? That's like asking would you miss disk brakes or one x 10/11/12 if we were still all on cable V Brakes and triple rings, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted May 26, 2023 Share On 5/24/2023 at 11:09 AM, Headshot said: GX 11 is quite good a durable but it suffers from the same malady all cable operated SRAM shifters do - horrible ergonomics on the release button and the lack of double shifts to higher gears. Maybe that's why they felt compelled to go AXS - couldn't build a decent cable shifter? Shimano patents prevent anyone from using the multi upshift feature. Even the ergonomics are limited by patent protection. And yes AXS was a way to break free of those patent limitations. gripshift still has the best ergonomics of all yet it’s not popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted May 26, 2023 Share 1 hour ago, Headshot said: I do when its working but I'm a manual lover at heart. Ordinarily I'd agree with you but the ergonomics on the GX 11 shifter are so shite that its a pain to do quick clicks. Also, when you have something as silky smooth and hand friendly as a Saint 10 speed shifter on your other bike, the GX is just horrid. Would I miss it it it hadn't been invented? That's like asking would you miss disk brakes or one x 10/11/12 if we were still all on cable V Brakes and triple rings, isn't it? GX 11 has the non adjustable downshift paddle right? Stop being so snup and get an XO1 11 shifter man. I may even have a 11 speed gripshift for you … also bear in mind that with these new wide range cassettes the ability to multi up or downshift is less appealing as the chain tends to get caught up on the cassette. With close ratio cassettes this is a good feature to have Edited May 26, 2023 by DieselnDust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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