Jump to content

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 78.7k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • 'Dale

    4540

  • Hairy

    4308

  • gummibear

    3909

  • Eddy Gordo

    3867

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted

This pilot has nerves (and balls) of steel. This is a very dangerous maneuver he is executing, as the downwash of the rotors in such a confined space "bounces" off the bottom, and comes funneling back up as there is no horizontal escape. This new funnel of air coming back to the rotors causes the chopper to require more power, cancelling the "ground effect", basically causing it to lose lift resulting in an accelerated descent.

 

To fly like that in such a confined space deserves a medal.

It's a team effort of the pilot with the guidance of the hoist operator sitting in the back. Hoist operator guides the pilot in all directions while watching the main and tail rotors. It becomes even more difficult when hoist is deployed to try and drop the hook in the hands of rescuer on the ground asking the pilot to move 1-2 meters at a time as rescuer does not go after hook especially if you on a ledge. Btw the hoist operator was a lady. 

Posted

This pilot has nerves (and balls) of steel. This is a very dangerous maneuver he is executing, as the downwash of the rotors in such a confined space "bounces" off the bottom, and comes funneling back up as there is no horizontal escape. This new funnel of air coming back to the rotors causes the chopper to require more power, cancelling the "ground effect", basically causing it to lose lift resulting in an accelerated descent.

 

To fly like that in such a confined space deserves a medal.

not denying the skill required and displayed, I have a little RC helicopter that constantly crashes in much less confined spaces in my kitchen, but asking about the physics.

 

surely a tunnel/tubelike area like that would increase the ground affect? by pushing all the air down, you're compressing it below..which means more lift?...

Posted (edited)

not denying the skill required and displayed, I have a little RC helicopter that constantly crashes in much less confined spaces in my kitchen, but asking about the physics.

 

surely a tunnel/tubelike area like that would increase the ground affect? by pushing all the air down, you're compressing it below..which means more lift?...

Nope. There's nowhere for the disturbed air to go but back up. Heavy amounts of wash, which is in effect just turbulence. As a result, there's far less lift generated for a given rotor pitch / speed. 

 

Less air being able to be drawn from above the heli cos there's resistance from the air being pushed back up. 

Edited by Myles Mayhew

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Settings My Forum Content My Followed Content Forum Settings Ad Messages My Ads My Favourites My Saved Alerts My Pay Deals Help Logout