fanievb Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2017-10-09-lionmama-case-when-is-it-self-defence-or-a-criminal-act/ "You will have to demonstrate that you reasonably believed that your life was threatened‚ that you were going to die if you didn’t defend yourself. You have to really believe that your life was in danger." newspapers are not the best sources of interpretation when it comes to the law as it doesn't create enough sensationalism for them...... have a read here http://www.saflii.org/za/journals/DEREBUS/2015/138.html
MTBeer Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZANCHC/2011/16.html Found guilty that's all rather ambiguous unless I missed something when I skimmed through.
Eddy Gordo Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 http://www.derebus.org.za/fight-back-might-found-guilty-putative-self-defence/
forkie Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 at the end of the day i would rather be alive and go to court to explain myself than take the chance of not being alive. Eddy Gordo 1
Patchelicious Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 How many robbers/buglars etc get shot and killed and the self defender never goes to jail?These fringe cases are outrage clickbait material. MTBeer 1
Blackbeard Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 And if they come into your house at night, fall aver your coffee table and break a leg, they can sue you, because they got injured on your property. Or You come home after work, and 2 gentleman are helping themselves to your wife...... You are according to what is being said here, not allowed to help her, because your life is not in danger. Force can be use to protect third parties.
Shebeen Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 the last 6 pages of this thread are all off topic!!! please for the love of all things sacred take it here https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/162558-hot-off-the-press/page-965?do=findComment&comment=3441896 or here https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/149692-time-to-get-the-hell-out-of-here/page-673?do=findComment&comment=3466111 Eddy Gordo, Hairy, Blackbeard and 6 others 9
Blackbeard Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Like i said, the only way you will get away with self defence is if the person physically harms you. You can do nothing if they on your property. Trying to prove you are innocent with very little evidence is gonna be real hard.The State has to prove you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt - you do not have to prove you are innocent. fanievb and Patchelicious 2
BSG Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Yes, it's rude but I still laughed. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/my-fk-marelize-reaction-to-girl-riding-bike-into-rugby-posts-has-people-in-stitches-20190228Not rude, it's Afrikaans, for what the heck Marilize...........[emoji1787] Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk Hairy 1
Hairy Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 reminds me of this! Not rude, it's Afrikaans, for what the heck Marilize...........[emoji1787]Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk BSG, Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, GaryP and 1 other 4
GrahamS2 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) what if they dont attack you but also just carry on helping themselves to your possessions? seeing that they know you cant do anything about it? You are allowed to defend your life and property. So you would be allowed to use reasonable means to stop them stealing and prevent them leaving until the cops private security force arrive. Shooting an unarmed person who is not physically assaulting you would not be regarded as reasonable IMO. Edited February 28, 2019 by GrahamS2
fanievb Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 the awesomeness that is Sam Pilgrim Eddy Gordo 1
BSG Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 reminds me of this! https://youtu.be/caB5VTueduQBleddie awesome Afrikaans [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787], dankie oom Jan v Riebeeck Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk
Eddy Gordo Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 the awesomeness that is Sam Pilgrim Some Questionable methods
forkie Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 this came up on my FB Hairy, Ed-Zulu, Patchelicious and 1 other 4
Lotus Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Bleddie awesome Afrikaans [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787], dankie oom Jan v Riebeeck Sent from my VTR-L09 using TapatalkThe f-word - in Afrikaans or Irish, it's inoffensive, funny and expressive. BSG 1
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