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Picked this up on my home as an early Christmas gift.

 

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Sjoe!  I'm envious!  To many many many many many glorious cups of coffee!

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Congrat Gummi - looking forward to your feedback.

Very easy to setup with the instruction book and YouTube clips[emoji106]

 

I bought some beans from one of my favorite coffee shops and made my first cup.

 

The smell of fresh coffee ️ in the house is awesome [emoji6]

 

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Does anyone have any experience with the Breville Barista Express?

 

https://www.home.co.za/pdp/breville-barista-express/_/A-334002AAAA1

 

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I don't have one myself, but have used one before at a mate's house. You get a very good cup of coffee from it - and get lots of machine for your money.

 

Positives for me:

- Price, as it includes grinder

- Can steam and pull a shot at the same time

- Good looking

- Easy to use, convenient

 

Negatives:

- Portafilter is not standard 58mm, so you can't just go and buy accessories like an extra portafilter, or filter baskets, tampers, etc. aftermarket

- Steams very slowly, steaming function is weak conpared to something like a Gaggia or Rancillio Silvia

- Not very "purist", may not be a negative for you, but will be for some. I like the whole process of learning to tamp and distribute grinds propperly, fine tune my shot etc. But that said, you will make better coffee on this in the begining than with something like a Silvia, however once you knoe what you are doing a Silvia/Gaggia will produce a better shot.

 

It's a very good machine for the money. But just read up a bit on what it is you want from your machine. IMO, this machine will be what most people are looking for, and makes good coffee without too much effort.

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I don't have one myself, but have used one before at a mate's house. You get a very good cup of coffee from it - and get lots of machine for your money.

 

Positives for me:

- Price, as it includes grinder

- Can steam and pull a shot at the same time

- Good looking

- Easy to use, convenient

 

Negatives:

- Portafilter is not standard 58mm, so you can't just go and buy accessories like an extra portafilter, or filter baskets, tampers, etc. aftermarket

- Steams very slowly, steaming function is weak conpared to something like a Gaggia or Rancillio Silvia

- Not very "purist", may not be a negative for you, but will be for some. I like the whole process of learning to tamp and distribute grinds propperly, fine tune my shot etc. But that said, you will make better coffee on this in the begining than with something like a Silvia, however once you knoe what you are doing a Silvia/Gaggia will produce a better shot.

 

It's a very good machine for the money. But just read up a bit on what it is you want from your machine. IMO, this machine will be what most people are looking for, and makes good coffee without too much effort.

 

Thanks for the detailed feedback.

 

The "now barista in me" says, go with this machine since it is a good upgrade from the Bialetti and store-ground coffee we currently have.

 

The "future barista in me" says, Go with the Rancillo Silvia, because one day you will regret not going with a more "purist" machine.

 

It's kind of like "Buy that size M shirt, because it will force you to go on a diet and ride more and then you will fit into it". (I have a lot of size M shirts in my cupboard that are too small...)

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I don't have one myself, but have used one before at a mate's house. You get a very good cup of coffee from it - and get lots of machine for your money.

 

Positives for me:

- Price, as it includes grinder

- Can steam and pull a shot at the same time

- Good looking

- Easy to use, convenient

 

Negatives:

- Portafilter is not standard 58mm, so you can't just go and buy accessories like an extra portafilter, or filter baskets, tampers, etc. aftermarket

- Steams very slowly, steaming function is weak conpared to something like a Gaggia or Rancillio Silvia

- Not very "purist", may not be a negative for you, but will be for some. I like the whole process of learning to tamp and distribute grinds propperly, fine tune my shot etc. But that said, you will make better coffee on this in the begining than with something like a Silvia, however once you knoe what you are doing a Silvia/Gaggia will produce a better shot.

 

It's a very good machine for the money. But just read up a bit on what it is you want from your machine. IMO, this machine will be what most people are looking for, and makes good coffee without too much effort.

Pretty spot on.

I went for this setup over the Rancillio as I’d rather get a better setup later on and this one doesn’t seem to lack much compared the Rancillio.

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Pretty spot on.

I went for this setup over the Rancillio as I’d rather get a better setup later on and this one doesn’t seem to lack much compared the Rancillio.

 

i'll be honest here...

 

I believe the Silvia is the best value vs performance pro-sumer machine on the market.

 

I don't believe that anything below a GS3 or similar can compete...

 

You will have to spend considerably more money to get better than a Silvia....

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Thanks for the detailed feedback.

 

The "now barista in me" says, go with this machine since it is a good upgrade from the Bialetti and store-ground coffee we currently have.

 

The "future barista in me" says, Go with the Rancillo Silvia, because one day you will regret not going with a more "purist" machine.

 

It's kind of like "Buy that size M shirt, because it will force you to go on a diet and ride more and then you will fit into it". (I have a lot of size M shirts in my cupboard that are too small...)

Get the Sylvia before the breville - the Breville uses a thermobloc for heating - and while they say it will work, experience is that it is very temperature unstable and a b..h to use in real life (compared to even a sylvia, which without a PID is also a bit of a thermo nightmare - and still not the equal of a machine with a bigger boiler and  heat exchanger - i never recommend a single boiler machine to anyone unless you are strictly an espresso only drinker... and have no friends...

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i'll be honest here...

 

I believe the Silvia is the best value vs performance pro-sumer machine on the market.

 

I don't believe that anything below a GS3 or similar can compete...

 

You will have to spend considerably more money to get better than a Silvia....

I agree - if you are an espresso only drinker - but as soon as milk is involved, then a basic heat exchanger machine is a lot more versatile.... - the cycle of heating up, making espresso, heating up again, steaming, cooling down and starting again is way too much pain for me - and it's absolutely unusable as soon as you have more than 2 single capp's to make back to back.

 

And not forgetting.... the grinder is more important than the machine.....

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I agree - if you are an espresso only drinker - but as soon as milk is involved, then a basic heat exchanger machine is a lot more versatile.... - the cycle of heating up, making espresso, heating up again, steaming, cooling down and starting again is way too much pain for me - and it's absolutely unusable as soon as you have more than 2 single capp's to make back to back.

 

And not forgetting.... the grinder is more important than the machine.....

Love my Silvia, but agree, when making for more than 2 people it becomes a pain working with a single boiler.

 

I got myself a big milk jug - enough to steam milk for 4 single cappucinos, cool the boiler down, and use 2 portafilters to draw 4 singles - so for 4 people it works reasonably well. Any more than 4 and it becomes a very drawn out process.

 

That said, you get what you pay for, and at +/- R15k there is nothing that competes with the Silvia/Rocky combo.

 

I want to upgrade to a nice double boiler at some stage (will keep the rocky grinder), but that's hard to justify at this point.

 

Would also pick Silvia over Breville (well I guess that's exactly what I did).

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Love my Silvia, but agree, when making for more than 2 people it becomes a pain working with a single boiler.

 

I got myself a big milk jug - enough to steam milk for 4 single cappucinos, cool the boiler down, and use 2 portafilters to draw 4 singles - so for 4 people it works reasonably well. Any more than 4 and it becomes a very drawn out process.

 

That said, you get what you pay for, and at +/- R15k there is nothing that competes with the Silvia/Rocky combo.

 

I want to upgrade to a nice double boiler at some stage (will keep the rocky grinder), but that's hard to justify at this point.

 

Would also pick Silvia over Breville (well I guess that's exactly what I did).

I saw a nice looking new DB machine was announced - The Rocket R91 - seems to tick all the boxes - Dual boiler, rotary pump, saturated group head, and ......pressure profiling....

 

https://www.rocket-espresso.com/phone/r-nine-one.html

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