jcza Posted October 10, 2016 Share I think one needs TSS of 700 per week to maintain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted October 10, 2016 Share Now I'm tired, this week will be very low as will next week with the Shova and Bestmed Sattelite Classic. Then its back to big blocks for DC and Desert Dash. I hate how quickly CTL drops and how hard it is to get it back up again http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss153/Patch-elicious/TSS_zpsnwh3jyfw.png jcza, andydude, Spinnekop and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknRolla Posted October 10, 2016 Share I certainly dont have the numbers to post in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted October 10, 2016 Share hmmmmm I just noticed you're talking about TSShr... Might be wrong, as I know TSS based on power/FTP/wattage is calc as per my response. GYes, I guess that makes it a bit more tricky. Do you perhaps have a few real examples if you use both power and heart rate? I understand heart rate is more variable with same power which stays constant for same power. But does the heart rate variability kind of average out? I hope my question makes sense.I found another formula to calculate TSS from heart rate and it creates quite big differences! Previously I used "TriBlogs", but you can see how it differs from the new "Mahoney" formula. Those that use their own TSS from heart rate formula, what formula do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesme Posted October 10, 2016 Share Patches, what your average time on the bike/day/week ? G Since my ankle issue at I've had some catching up to do. Week 1 - 522Week 2 - 527Week 3 - 701Week 4 - 723Week 5 - 644Week 7 - 691Week 8 - 965Week 9 - 584Week 10 (this last week) - 981 Thats what it took to get my CTL back to where it was before taking 2 weeks off the bike.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesme Posted October 10, 2016 Share I mostly know the Power meter stuff as I use a Kickr + TrainerRoad for my training. Looking t HR, I don't have ay trust in it anymore... I know my fitness level is allot higher than my wifes, we'll do exactly the same workout on TR, her HR will be 130-145 and mine will be 175-180. She's 6 yrs younger than me... I'll have a look if Coggan's or Friel's book have something about HR and TSS and let you know. G Yes, I guess that makes it a bit more tricky. Do you perhaps have a few real examples if you use both power and heart rate? I understand heart rate is more variable with same power which stays constant for same power. But does the heart rate variability kind of average out? I hope my question makes sense. andydude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted October 10, 2016 Share Patches, what your average time on the bike/day/week ? GBetween 12-15 hours, 5 to 6 rides a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesme Posted October 10, 2016 Share ok, that then makes it make sense.so thats a TSS 50-65 average/hour.My limiting thing is available hours... running around 250-280 /week atm on trainer and then anther 150-200 over the wknd depending what I get to do.G Between 12-15 hours, 5 to 6 rides a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesme Posted October 10, 2016 Share What I'm finding. How to Calculate TSS.http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/normalized-power,-intensity-factor-training-stress http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/estimating-training-stress-score-tss http://help.trainingpeaks.com/hc/en-us/articles/204071944-Training-Stress-Scores-ExplainedHeart Rate Training Stress Score (hrTSS)Applicable Workout Types: All workout typesAccuracy Level: hrTSS is quite accurate with steady state effort workouts, but is less accurate for workouts with highly fluctuating efforts. hrTSS will only be used if there is not enough data to calculate TSS, rTSS, or sTSS, and the below requirements to calculate are met.Requirements to Calculate: Workout time series heart rate data, user threshold heart rate (entered in heart rate zones)What is hrTSS? Heart Rate Training Stress Score (hrTSS) is based on time in heart rate zones (based on users lactate threshold heart rate), and is not as accurate as Powermeter based TSS or running pace baced rTSS. TrainingPeaks uses the table found in the article below for calculating heart rate training stress score: http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/what-is-tss G andydude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesme Posted October 10, 2016 Share Found the following also. http://www.movescount.com/apps/app10040232-TSS_based_on_heart_rate http://www.argonautcyclecoaching.com/resources/HRM%20Presentation_WebVersion.pdf http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12792459 G Edited October 10, 2016 by awesme andydude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted October 10, 2016 Share Since my ankle issue at I've had some catching up to do. Week 1 - 522Week 2 - 527Week 3 - 701Week 4 - 723Week 5 - 644Week 7 - 691Week 8 - 965Week 9 - 584Week 10 (this last week) - 981 Thats what it took to get my CTL back to where it was before taking 2 weeks off the bike.... #brainfog_at_work Great effortDamnJust in time for the 2017 World Tour Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted October 10, 2016 Share Shane Archbold from Bora Argon team for the week. Not bad....... I reckon he is also catching up with form, like Patch', after his big high-speed crash in one of the Grand Tours Edited October 10, 2016 by 'Dale Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted December 22, 2016 Share i'm a little rusty here do you take FTP as your 60 min NP, or just as 60 min power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted December 22, 2016 Share i'm a little rusty here do you take FTP as your 60 min NP, or just as 60 min power? average power, fand' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted December 22, 2016 Share i'm a little rusty here do you take FTP as your 60 min NP, or just as 60 min power?If you want to brag, NP, if you want to use it for yourself, avg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted December 22, 2016 Share i'm a little rusty here do you take FTP as your 60 min NP, or just as 60 min power?On that subject, using 20min power figures is a bit more "realistic" in SA "racing" scene as you seldom get a race or break or ride that will last more than say an hour at flatbox levels. Even in the break you rest every here and there and using 20min (or 2 x 8min) figures gets you closer to determine what you can or cannot do when you are in a race..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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