(Update) Absa Cape Epic: Evans and Knox penalised for unfair advantage

[rouxtjie]

And he has the best looking SS in SA and correct me if I am wrong but I think the only one in SA

ta, thanks mnr

[TALUS]

 

ta, thanks mnr

will look better with drops though..?

[flat29]

will look better with drops though..?

 

Sies man!!!!!!

[Witkop]

^{So another innovation by the Cape Epic,}

 

^{Daconnian and totally over the top fines for infringements (with late media releases too boot)}

 

^{add that to the needless doping control of back markers and the imposition of cut off times per stage, and you have a a great challenge which will appeal to the pro's as well as the well healed fun riders.}

[Guest Smimby]

So does that mean I can take a shortcut if I have a puncture in my next race...just want to make sure.

 

Only if it is on a Friday..........

 

rouxtjie may have done a few 9 day MTB races and may have done some of them with only one gear. He def. understands what can go wrong on a MTB.

 

It's Friday, I was just joining the **** t@lking.....

 

Edited March 28, 2014 by Smimby

[Red Zone]

Rules are rules, 5 m today, tomorrow someone takes 50 m then 100 m. Race organisers need to be consistent and penalise an infringement. These boys are professional riders, they know the rules and sign up to ride accordingly. The sanction is normally set up before hand so the organisers are simply playing by the same rule book that the riders have bought into, if they didn't like it they don't have to ride. That's the black and white of it.

 

The other side, the side I have preferred to see is that the second place team sees the infringement, calls KE over and tells him he did wrong. KE explains it was a fun rider in the way or whatever, they shake hands and move on. Sporting like.

 

If, as may be the case (or not) KE overreacted, swore at the second place dude, then sorry for him, bad judgement from KE in which case if I was said second place dude I would lodge the complaint. As soon as there is a complaint the organisers need to act

[Eugee]

I find this strange as during the prologue I think it was Either team Bulls or Meerendal Songo Specialised that also cut a switchback. The move could have saved them 2 seconds and it was televised yet no protest.

 

I saw this as well. Thought about it for about two seconds and then made up my mind that if it was an issue the pro riders would certainly not do it.

 

I really hope kevin did it just to pass a slower rider or has a good reason for doing so. Cant really see why he would want to cheat to gain 2-5 seconds. In the greater sceme of things such a small time difference surely makes no difference

[Stretch]

 

I really hope kevin did it just to pass a slower rider

 

a lot of people have been saying this...and it dont understand it...this is a not a situation where the 40k route shares a track with the 20k race...ALL the funriders are BEHIND them....if KE is behind someone then HE is the slower rider....so if he took a shortcut to overtake a pro that is in front of him then yes...that is cheating...if the pro in front of him was stopped for a technical or something then no..its not

[rouxtjie]

BridgMinnaarStewart ‏@BridgStewart 9h

Controversial morning. Apparently @AbsaCapeEpic rules don't apply to the Swiss when it comes to inside lines & dropping wrappers #injustice

 

kekekekeke........days of our epic

[Andrew Steer]

Appeals/complaints have to be lodged within 30 minutes of completing a stage with the race commisaire... else forever hold your peace . Hence the reason Sauser has dodged his bullet. If someone did lodge a complaint then I would say we have double standards - which is obviously not on. I take it all the people who are talking about Sauser being above the rules remember him losing an Epic for a rule infringement??? Burry's pringled wheel swap?

 

Will all the pro's think twice in future about cutting a corner (or ten) - I think so.

 

Is it in the rules the riders are given beforehand - I would guess so.

 

Should they fine the *** out of riders for littering - hell yeah!

 

Should they test the riders as often as possible - again hell yeah! And a bit of targeted testing on a team who's manager was recently bust for doping just sounds like common sense. Nothing against Max, but if he's clean he has nothing to worry about.

 

Can we get back to the good stuff now

Edited March 28, 2014 by Andrew Steer

[Gandalf]

Get the correct facts. Beukes and Heyns were 5 minutes ahead when this happened. The incident was witnessed by a group of riders including Oli. When they called him he swore at them. It was not 5 meters. That is what I heard. Believe what you will.

 

Who swore at who?

[Tubehunter]

I think the organizers should ride those sections out and see how much time was really made up and penalize them from there.1 hour sounds a bit harsh,but what difference does it make what we say anyway.

 

The funniest part of reading all these chirps on the hub is that none of you have clearly served any jury duty at a race! There's a process in place to protect the riders and the credibility of the race. The jury reviews any protests and makes a decision. Often times these go on until well into the small hours of the morning as evidence is brought in and these people than need to be up and ready for the next full day of duties again.

 

The penalties will ALWAYS be far more severe than the crime to specifically deter competitors in weighing up a potential crime as the time will be almost negligible. Imagine how many transgressions there would be if the penalties were in line with the crime????

[Gandalf]

BridgMinnaarStewart ‏@BridgStewart 9h

Controversial morning. Apparently @AbsaCapeEpic rules don't apply to the Swiss when it comes to inside lines & dropping wrappers #injustice

 

kekekekeke........days of our epic

 

I actually saw a few people dropping wrappers including the women of RECM

[rouxtjie]

Appeals/complaints have to be lodged within 30 minutes of completing a stage with the race commisaire... else forever hold your peace . Hence the reason Sauser has dodged his bullet. If someone did lodge a complaint then I would say we have double standards - which is obviously not on. I take it all the people who are talking about Sauser being above the rules remember him losing an Epic for a rule infringement??? Burry's pringled wheel swap?

 

Will all the pro's think twice in future about cutting a corner (or ten) - I think so.

 

Is it in the rules the riders are given beforehand - I would guess so.

 

Should they fine the *** out of riders for littering - hell yeah!

 

Should they test the riders as often as possible - again hell yeah! And a bit of targeted testing on a team who's manager was recently bust for doping just sounds like common sense. Nothing against Max, but if he's clean he has nothing to worry about.

 

Can we get back to the good stuff now

Can't like this anymore if I tried

[rouxtjie]

I actually saw a few people dropping wrappers including the women of RECM

That is what she was insinuating

[sometime]

Appeals/complaints have to be lodged within 30 minutes of completing a stage with the race commisaire... else forever hold your peace . Hence the reason Sauser has dodged his bullet. If someone did lodge a complaint then I would say we have double standards - which is obviously not on. I take it all the people who are talking about Sauser being above the rules remember him losing an Epic for a rule infringement??? Burry's pringled wheel swap?

 

Will all the pro's think twice in future about cutting a corner (or ten) - I think so.

 

Is it in the rules the riders are given beforehand - I would guess so.

 

Should they fine the *** out of riders for littering - hell yeah!

 

 

Finally someone with some common sense making an informed & accurate post on this thread.