Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Jewbacca]

Maybe the break from racing gave them some time to improve technique too. With constant racing it’s difficult to spend time to hone a need skill, if you need to maintain fitness?

 

When I transitioned to zero drop it took quite a while before I could up my km’s again …. In the world of marginal gains, and top athletes changing techniques, the break from racing could possibly have given them this rare opportunity?

I love all the optimism.

 

I actually think it's probably a case of some of some for all the records, as well as having being able to train in a way more structured, focussed and longer training block than usual.

 

So athletes have had more time to train at WR pace with zero interruptions from the program. 

 

I do also think there may be technique changes, hormone changes and other changes in some, but in varying degrees across the board.

 

Records should be broken. With our access to technology, time, nutrician etc people should be getting better and better

[lechatnoir]

Try the Mapangubwe Wildrun:

http://www.wildrun.com/experiences/safari-run%C2%AE-mapungubwe

 

92km over 3 days for R25 850 (2019 price)...

 

Well, if you don't like that price, you'll like this one even less... http://www.wildrun.com/experiences/namibia-crossing

[soslow]

I was reading somewhere that the Kenyans, Ugandans, Ethiopians and most of the East Africans were training in their homelands with training groups during their lock down period, with no external influences. 

Can you imagine running with a group of 10 plus individuals on a daily basis , all of whom could qualify for the olympics. 

[Chris_]

Seeing as there are a few ultra athletes on here.  I'd like to get some thoughts and tricks on what you guys use for nutrition on the trails, specifically with reuse in mind, i.e. no plastic wrappers and such.

 

I've experimented with some rice cakes before, and that will continue to be my go to for longer runs.  I am keen to try some mash potato recipes, but the challenge with this is that it may not pack too easily into a foil wrap.  I see lots of peeps use ziplocks and just bite off a corner and off they go, but that doesn't fit with the reuse plan.

 

I have seen some reusable food pouches for baby food, which seem to be what I'm looking for, but they are all a bit too small (intended for baby's of course), but can't seem to find any of these which would carry enough.  My next thought is perhaps buying another soft flask (the salomon one with bigger opening), and using that (exclusively for food), but that would come with some admin to fill as well as clean.

 

Any thoughts or ideas? 

 

Put mashed potato in a wrap. in a ziplock or foil or whatever else.

[Chris_]

I was reading somewhere that the Kenyans, Ugandans, Ethiopians and most of the East Africans were training in their homelands with training groups during their lock down period, with no external influences. 

Can you imagine running with a group of 10 plus individuals on a daily basis , all of whom could qualify for the olympics. 

 

We were saying this while watching the 21k world champs the other day.

 

What an absolute privilege it would be to spend a week just watching training in the Rift Valley, or I don't know where Ethiopian and Ugandan runners specifically live but just imagine! Diet, training, living, the lot. I've read about it but it would be super cool to see.

 

(and then a week in Boulder, Portland or the UK and see the polar opposite I imagine)

[b-rad]

I was reading somewhere that the Kenyans, Ugandans, Ethiopians and most of the East Africans were training in their homelands with training groups during their lock down period, with no external influences. 

Can you imagine running with a group of 10 plus individuals on a daily basis , all of whom could qualify for the olympics.

 

As they always have done. I doubt Covid changed much in that regard. Life goes on.

What probably did help was the group structure would have been more steady for longer periods without many of them travelling all over the world for racing at different times.

[Stretch]

As they always have done. I doubt Covid changed much in that regard. Life goes on.

What probably did help was the group structure would have been more steady for longer periods without many of them travelling all over the world for racing at different times.

Oh they were impacted alright. I know the track that is used at the high altitude training centre was closed and that the centre was closed too. They were definitely not allowed to do their normal group runs etc in kenya and I know the ethiopians were training largely on their own too.

[Frosty]

Anyone know at what age the biological passport system starts? This is related to cycling, but given it’s being discussed here, I will leave it here.

 

Is running done the same as cycling, i.e. similar type of passport profile?

[Zama7]

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/pregnant-woman-ran-mile-minutes-week-due-date/story?id=73697588

 

Health concerns apart if this run is legit it is an amazing achievement... Current record for a mile is 6min and after watching this I only have one goal this year and that is to run a 5:20 mile

[gifs]

Any recommendations on a good brand? Ziploc brand? 

 

I need some for the Bloukrans River crossing at Otter next week.

 

 

 

I use ziploc bags. I still have some that have seen 2 years of racing. Easy to clean and reusable if you buy the good ones.

 

Also mildly water resistant for river crossings etc.

 

 

[Jewbacca]

Any recommendations on a good brand? Ziploc brand? 

 

I need some for the Bloukrans River crossing at Otter next week.

I use the Jiffy heavy duty freezer bags. The ones with the reinforced bottom that flattens out to stand up.

 

That way if you overfill them they don't split at the corners.

 

I also find 2 or 3 small ones better than 1 big one so I can keep my Jelly sweets separate from my nut mix etc... 

[gifs]

I use the Jiffy heavy duty freezer bags. The ones with the reinforced bottom that flattens out to stand up.

 

That way if you overfill them they don't split at the corners.

 

I also find 2 or 3 small ones better than 1 big one so I can keep my Jelly sweets separate from my nut mix etc... 

 

Okay great thanks. Definitely looking for a variety of sizes to pack various items separately.

[b-rad]

Did anyone follow the Cape Town marathon elite races on the weekend? Some impressive runs.

Based on a formula developed by Dr Ross Tucker, "adjusted times" that take into account the altitude at different race venues (Potchefstroom, Pretoria, Cape Town), the final results were produced. I've added a pic explaining the time adjustments.

 

Bongmusa Mthembu ran a 2:17:31in Cpt so no adjustment and finished tied 4th.

Edward Mothibi smashed it in Potchefstroom with a 2:16:48 but this was adjusted to 2:13:11 to win overall.

Phillimon Mathibi was in Pretoria and ran 2:18:29 but adjusted to 2:14:49.

 

This is the part I'm not sure I agree with. There is no doubt that times will be quicker at sea level but deciding a race outcome based on a formula reminds me a bit too much of how the Proteas got knocked out of the World Cup cricket because of a formula nobody understands (Duckworth Lewis).

 

Why was the event actually held at three venues? Wouldn't Cape Town have worked for an elites only race?

 

Thoughts?

 

 

[Khronis]

Did anyone follow the Cape Town marathon elite races on the weekend? Some impressive runs.

Based on a formula developed by Dr Ross Tucker, "adjusted times" that take into account the altitude at different race venues (Potchefstroom, Pretoria, Cape Town), the final results were produced. I've added a pic explaining the time adjustments.

 

Bongmusa Mthembu ran a 2:17:31in Cpt so no adjustment and finished tied 4th.

Edward Mothibi smashed it in Potchefstroom with a 2:16:48 but this was adjusted to 2:13:11 to win overall.

Phillimon Mathibi was in Pretoria and ran 2:18:29 but adjusted to 2:14:49.

 

This is the part I'm not sure I agree with. There is no doubt that times will be quicker at sea level but deciding a race outcome based on a formula reminds me a bit too much of how the Proteas got knocked out of the World Cup cricket because of a formula nobody understands (Duckworth Lewis).

 

Why was the event actually held at three venues? Wouldn't Cape Town have worked for an elites only race?

 

Thoughts?

 

 

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I agree , should have been held at one venue where they could easily have controlled everything with a limited field. Everyone racing on a different type of course just doesn't make it a fair contest. 

[Stretch]

What a stupid concept

[Chris_]

Did anyone follow the Cape Town marathon elite races on the weekend? Some impressive runs.

Based on a formula developed by Dr Ross Tucker, "adjusted times" that take into account the altitude at different race venues (Potchefstroom, Pretoria, Cape Town), the final results were produced. I've added a pic explaining the time adjustments.

 

Bongmusa Mthembu ran a 2:17:31in Cpt so no adjustment and finished tied 4th.

Edward Mothibi smashed it in Potchefstroom with a 2:16:48 but this was adjusted to 2:13:11 to win overall.

Phillimon Mathibi was in Pretoria and ran 2:18:29 but adjusted to 2:14:49.

 

This is the part I'm not sure I agree with. There is no doubt that times will be quicker at sea level but deciding a race outcome based on a formula reminds me a bit too much of how the Proteas got knocked out of the World Cup cricket because of a formula nobody understands (Duckworth Lewis).

 

Why was the event actually held at three venues? Wouldn't Cape Town have worked for an elites only race?

 

Thoughts?

 

 

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I think its making it unnecessarily complicated. But hopelessly so.

 

What about route ascent? What about temperature? What about wind speeds? You can extrapolate as far and dumb and no less relevant as you want.

 

Smart man getting involved where he needn't be. The race is either in one place or virtual - theres no inbetween