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Are we really speculating whether he was found with a brake bleed kit? I mean, really? Really really?

 

I know anti-doping agencies can fumble around a bit and haven't exactly covered themselves in glory regarding testing protocol in the last decade...

 

BUT, let's assume they know the difference between someone's toolkit and and their toiletry bag.

 

Well contador imported steaks for his team from Spain during the TDF once, apparently French steaks don't work as well 

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Thanks Swiss. Quite clear that you may not have an unauthorized or unvalidated injection, or the kit for self administration. Can't self adminster ANYTHING , however innocuous, without TUE. Makes sense

 

 

Yeah its quite hectic actualy, especially if you ever went for or given yourself a Vit B shot.....

s h I t I'm a wanker and a doper

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I'm just stoked I got to use the syringe emoji on whatsapp.

 

http://pix.iemoji.com/images/emoji/apple/8.3/256/syringe.png

Hey if it turns out that he was using it for naughty things we can use this one too.

 

*searches frantically for the middle finger one that seems to be gone now*[emoji17]

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This always comes up and it makes me batty. I don't mean to pick on you Scott5 but think about this a little and you will have to admit it's about the most useless statement you can make.

 

I will give you an example. I can say that Scott5 is a plonker of note (keep calm now, I'm just using this as an example). Someone then comes along and says yes they agree. You then say you are not a plonker at all. But hey, where there is smoke there is fire and you are now officially screwed.

 

It is intellectually lazy and if taken to its logical extreme all it will take is to lay a charge against someone and he must go to jail. Where there is smoke as an argument makes anyone accused of anything by anyone at any time automatically guilty.

 

It's what leads to mindless persecution, lynchings, which burnings and all sorts of other mindless behavior

 

I guess that was a rant

Oi! Leave Emily out of this!

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Your example does not make sense to me. Scott said where there is smoke there is usually a fire, in this case there is "smoke"

WHat do you mean 'smoke'? There is actually 'fire'. Dude was caught breaking a rule for which there is a sanction. There's nothing to speculate about that.

What he was using 'medical testing' and injecting paraphernalia for, well, that's a whole new bag of issues, isn't it.

Anyway, cycling and cheating are like hand and glove. Always has been, probably always will be. Provides entertainment, though.

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Anyway, cycling and cheating are like hand and glove. Always has been, probably always will be.

While we're steaming ahead on the skeptic train, this is probably the case for most professional sports. The pressure will always be there and boundaries will always be pushed. That said though, the UCI have done a lot to curb doping and have made huge inroads into making it extremely difficult (and potentially costly) to do so. This incident is a perfect example.

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Ek het die antwoord vir jou daar.

 

Jip!! baie van ons ryers moet hulle eie goed diens omdat CSA nie vir als betaal nie, en baie van die ryers gaan oor op geld wat hulle moes self weg sit en die vol onder onderstening onder seker brands val daai kant nie.

 

Daar gaan baie meer agter die prentjie aan as n mens daai kant van die wereld resies ry. Parte daai kant is nie goedkoop volgend wat ons geld trade op die oomlik, maak dit nie als maklik ook nie. Ek het n paar vriende wat oorsee race en worlds race, en die goed wat hulle vertel als, sal jou stom los. 

 

Laat ons maar kyk wat die storie is aan die einde van die dag. So iets kan gebruik word om sealant in te spyt of vir brieke te herstel.  

Seriously? Someone breaks the LAW and you look for an excuse? Do you honestly think that he wanted to inject sealant or bleed brakes? 

 

I can not understand why people always want to bend the law when it suits them, or look for a loophole, like you wanted to use it for bleeding brakes.

 

It is easy, there is a rule and if you break the rule you are in trouble. 

 

If he was racing and left the course due to a fall, and the rule states clearly where you can rejoin and he did not. Will you also say, but CSA did not provide him with a mechanic so he had to bleed his brakes himself and clearly the bad bleed caused him to fall and go off the course?

 

It is VERY easy: Follow the rule, if you don't and get caught bye!

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While we're steaming ahead on the skeptic train, this is probably the case for most professional sports. The pressure will always be there and boundaries will always be pushed. That said though, the UCI have done a lot to curb doping and have made huge inroads into making it extremely difficult (and potentially costly) to do so. This incident is a perfect example.

It may be the case for most sports, but we're not discussing most sports here. The tu quo que diversion is just that, a diversion.

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