Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 15, 2016 Share Agreed, I would love to have one and fiddle but cannot justify the price tag and maintenance that comes with it...Yeah man. Same reason I use strava. I'm a bit of a data whore sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryT Posted August 15, 2016 Share Why would they not use the S-Works name on the frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted August 15, 2016 Share Don't look right hey that bubble gum blue skokker"Bubble Gum Blue Skokker" now that is a song title that belongs on the next Karavaanpark Treffers CD, maybe Patricia Lewis can do it! Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Fisan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted August 15, 2016 Share Guys it's not about the suspension..its about the yellow-orange ..orange-yellow [emoji12] shaper, two hands, nonky and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 15, 2016 Share What I`m saying is that for that complicated soup, simplicity is better. The Spaz frame is not as simple as it could be. I say there is a scientific difference, I`m not saying its going to make the difference between winning and losing for 2 different riders.No, that's not what you're saying. You're saying that one design is intrinsically better than all others, due to 2 very specific reasons - Solid rear triangle & shock position. What I'm saying is that you cannot say that. It's not that simple. There may be a demonstrable difference in the stiffness characteristics between the Silverback and, say, a Spaz, due to the solid rear triangle and how it's constructed, but in that solid rear triangle they have (relying on the seatstays to flex during shock compression) they're giving up a bit of sensitivity in the suspension stroke. Something that is important for both ascending technical climbs as well as descending. Incidentally, this design is more or less the same as Giant's STANCE - their BUDGET Trail bike. If simplicity were the answer to everything, we'd all be riding Oranges or Santa Cruz Butchers. Ultimate simplicity, single pivots with no fuss. Just relying on pivot positioning to get the desired suspension performance. But it's not. The EVIL line of bikes, for all their complication (despite being a single pivot bike) are hailed as one of the best performing bikes on the market. Then the SB5c and SB6c (yeti) also hold the same praise, but perform in a different way to the Evil. 2 very different suspension designs, yet both cream of the crop. Then you have the Spaz enduro - the game changer of the last 4 years, largely hailed as the single bike that changed what a niner could be, and remains one of the stalwarts of the enduro bike field. You're going to have to bring a lot of data to this fight in order to convince us that the SB design is better than anything else - and that's what you're claiming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Kruger Posted August 15, 2016 Share If this was really the case, why would they have their best candidate (JK) for a win on the heavier option? it is really the case, sid is a lot lighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJuice Posted August 15, 2016 Share When it comes to my taste in bikes, I like it all to be matchy matchy...The paint job is awesome, the bubblegum blue is classic, change the saddle and grips to black and stealth decals, you will have a looker. Good luck James! Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 15, 2016 Share it is really the case, sid is a lot lighterYep. For XCO at their weights, it's optimal and was necessary to contend with the Fox 32 StepCast. But I wouldn't trust it for my 106kg frame! Bizkit031 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev null Posted August 15, 2016 Share So, we are all in agreement then. A funky painted Spez with an award-winning suspension design is still not going to help JR much in the race. pellieg and Shebeen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted August 15, 2016 Share Is the fork travel 80mm ?? Looks a little short to be 100mm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ the Expat Posted August 15, 2016 Share That blue shock.... It's, well, shocking!!And it rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted August 15, 2016 Share And it rocks.Prove it!! With a "science test" Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, Pieterlab1, popcorn_skollie and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monark Posted August 15, 2016 Share Patch you make me laugh! think suzelle diy "it must be science" Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhardc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Good Luck James!! Give it horns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted August 16, 2016 Share That blue shock.... It's, well, shocking!!Annika Langvad is also riding one Annika Langvad @AnnikaLangvad 11h11 hours agoThings turned yellow today #torchcollection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted August 16, 2016 Share Annika Langvad is also riding one Annika Langvad @AnnikaLangvad 11h11 hours agoThings turned yellow today #torchcollection All the Spez sponsored riders are and have been riding them.. we saw lots of chameleon bikes during the road races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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