Hairy Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 And dentists ok .. dentists who used to play golf and used an electric cart to get around on the course.
Headshot Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 ok .. dentists who used to play golf and used an electric cart to get around on the course. Its a natural progression isn't it? All becoming so clear now...
Mamil Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 After 5 years of mountain biking I am only just starting to understand hills. Saw this at Darling on the weekend on that big seriea of climbs up to the mast and the swartberg pass at the granfondo. Experiences I would not have had if I resorted to an ebike to get 95kg of prime mamil up the steep. BigDL 1
Ashchest Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 am only just starting to understand hills I still battle to understand hills BigDL 1
Patchelicious Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 I still battle to understand hills Just for those from Durban, they are talking about hulls. Mamil and MTBeer 2
Mamil Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 It's getting to the bottom of some monster hill with a scary name usually involving mast or berg or pass and feeling the weight of it on the first upgrade abd then feeling when your pulse is maxing and backing off a little and then seeing a section where yoi know you'll need momentum.and maxing the heart rate to get over it and then backing off a bit. And its also managing the mind on an unknown climb when you round the corner and find its a false summit and there's another brutal slope ahead .... Stuff like this I don't think ebikers will understand or ever be forced to encounter. I overheard some of them talking at the swartberg about their sojourn up the pass on the side that we came down and I could hear that they had ridden up the hill but that they hadn't really ridden it. They knew it was steep but that was all. Enjoy that hill? Well sometimes we just don't know what's good for us. BigDL, Headshot, nonky and 2 others 5
ChrisF Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 ..... Enjoy that hill? Well sometimes we just don't know what's good for us. Okaaayyyyyyyy, I'll take the bait .... Sunday marked a "killer" ride for me. But it was ME on the bike, getting as far and as high as my body would take me. It was about pushing MY limits. It was "lekker" to push my limits, and to see that my body has recovered a bit over the last three years. Being able to keep up with many able bodies riders, being able to drop a wheel sucker, and the brutal reality of pulling over a few times to let the strong young riders past ... It was NOT about getting a "lift" to the top in order to have multiple down-hill runs - and there IS a place for this ! It was not about covering extended distances and getting in more views for the same workout of a shorter ride - and I appreciate some prefer this approach ... At Meerendal I struck up a conversation with a retired gent that was on a leasurely ride on his ebike. I am SURE he as good a time as I had !! Nice friendly gent. Not many people of his age that ride the trails on normal bikes, though Roux's dad sure shows us it IS possible .... frankly, who cares what bike these riders have !! They are out and about LIVING the life. At Bloemendal a dad was riding with his kid. Wont hazard a guess as to why this dad was on an ebike, fact is this enabled them to cycle together. Do ebikes belong on the mountain ? YES, please. Though I dont want one right now .... I know the day will come when that will be the only way to keep up with Maritz .... It will also allow me to do longer rides, further than these arthritic knees can take me .... for now, heck I enjoy getting there under my own steam (al is dit maar stadig.. ) Headshot, edkin and LazyTrailRider 3
Kranswurm Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 Another kid who was destined to end up on Clovelly or Westlake riding around on eCarts is now on the trails....Clovelly is a short cut to the start of Ou Wa Pad
MORNE Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 rode alongside two during Dbx this weekend for a while and actually got more annoyed about the pretty obvious whine they make. More funny though....It was on that first flat-ish bit through the farm...so not real difficult either. 'Have you no pride sir?'
Thor Buttox Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 rode alongside two during Dbx this weekend for a while and actually got more annoyed about the pretty obvious whine they make. More funny though....It was on that first flat-ish bit through the farm...so not real difficult either. 'Have you no pride sir?'You talking about the bikes or the cyclists? ChrisF, MORNE and Mamil 3
Headshot Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 It's getting to the bottom of some monster hill with a scary name usually involving mast or berg or pass and feeling the weight of it on the first upgrade abd then feeling when your pulse is maxing and backing off a little and then seeing a section where yoi know you'll need momentum.and maxing the heart rate to get over it and then backing off a bit. And its also managing the mind on an unknown climb when you round the corner and find its a false summit and there's another brutal slope ahead .... Stuff like this I don't think ebikers will understand or ever be forced to encounter. I overheard some of them talking at the swartberg about their sojourn up the pass on the side that we came down and I could hear that they had ridden up the hill but that they hadn't really ridden it. They knew it was steep but that was all. Enjoy that hill? Well sometimes we just don't know what's good for us.A rather good summation of why we cycle - hills included. I also wonder about eBikes. You may well be able to go further, faster but after a certain point your battery is flat and you're left pedaling a draggy lump of electronics and battery around. I've heard funny stories about eBikers running out of electricity on races before. I suppose you could carry an extra battery, but perhaps it is just easier to ride a normal bike? Ascension and Mamil 2
Ascension Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 If that lazy snot nosed brat "only" had a pedal bike, he would not have been up a hill in the first place. Yes he would not even have been there. So now there will be an increasing number of "brats" ebikers on the trails, all weighing a lot more than a mtb+rider. This trail is already over-used and ripped to shreds. There are also hikers on these trails and ebikes encourages and enables unfit noobs onto the trails at speeds that is much higher than an mtb. This is only the start.
Patchelicious Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 Yes he would not even have been there. So now there will be an increasing number of "brats" ebikers on the trails, all weighing a lot more than a mtb+rider. This trail is already over-used and ripped to shreds. There are also hikers on these trails and ebikes encourages and enables unfit noobs onto the trails at speeds that is much higher than an mtb. This is only the start.Another problem to consider is that hikers, trail runners and dog walkers are not likely going to be patient enough to take the time to distinguish between normal bicycle riders and eBikers. Brats that should be playing golf with tribal tat dad, will now be adding to our already sterling reputation as unselfish people. ChrisF 1
marko35s Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 A rather good summation of why we cycle - hills included. I also wonder about eBikes. You may well be able to go further, faster but after a certain point your battery is flat and you're left pedaling a draggy lump of electronics and battery around. I've heard funny stories about eBikers running out of electricity on races before. I suppose you could carry an extra battery, but perhaps it is just easier to ride a normal bike?You know my personal battle with Tokai over the last year?No e-biker will ever understand that feeling. Zatopek and Mamil 2
MudLark Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 A rather good summation of why we cycle - hills included. I also wonder about eBikes. You may well be able to go further, faster but after a certain point your battery is flat and you're left pedaling a draggy lump of electronics and battery around. I've heard funny stories about eBikers running out of electricity on races before. I suppose you could carry an extra battery, but perhaps it is just easier to ride a normal bike?Batteries will get better. But last year's two day Berg 'n Bush became a mudfest of note. So on day two we're ploughing through this heavy mud. Wheels won't turn anymore, chains won't stay on chainrings and derailleurs are clogged to heck. Then we get to this looooong incline of about 12 degrees or so and its just pure mud all the way. No hope in hell of riding up. Hoik the bike up on the shoulders and trudge is the only way. Couples are arguing, bitching and fighting. Okay, he ain't getting none for a while... And then there's this poor sod trying to get an e-bike up the hill through this lot. Ask him if its run out of juice. Nope he says, lots of juice but the drivetrain is jammed solid from the mud. And the worst of it he says to me, is it's my father-in-law's damned bike and now he's taken mine! [emoji1787] Mamil, Headshot, ChrisF and 1 other 4
Ashchest Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 The future of e-bikes ?https://www.facebook.com/TheTechViral/videos/439384386872023/ Not too long then you could get a robot to ride your bike for you and become The King of the Mountain!
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