Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

[Duane_Bosch]

An E-bike does not go fast enough to get the KOM up Chappies [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

 

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When I ride chappies i get a SOM every time.

[coppi]

Do e-bikes belong on the mountain- Yes, you can ride what you like

Do e-bikes belong on races - Definitely not unless you are in that category

 

Simple really.......................

[ChrisF]

An E-bike does not go fast enough to get the KOM up Chappies [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

 

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dont confuse the moaners with something as mundane as facts ....

[ChrisF]

Do e-bikes belong on the mountain- Yes, you can ride what you like

Do e-bikes belong on races - Definitely not unless you are in that category

 

Simple really.......................

 

well, is it that simple ???

 

For starters - what is a "race" ?

 

 

If the podium positions of a "fun-ride" qualify for a cash price, heck yes .... the ebike has no place in "that group", or more importantly - in any "place" in that event that could in any way influence the result of another catagory !!  So let the ebike riders start dead last, and with a good time penalty so that they can not catch the podium riders.

 

 

At the Ostrich Kick event a father and son entered.  Father went to the race organisers - he has MS.  He allowed to take part, but both him and his son was immediately excluded from any podium contention .. and as his was a geniune situation they were nowhere near podium in any event.

 

 

I am pretty sure at some stage I will buy an ebike.  But I KNOW that I have said no to good deals, as I want to pedal as long as possible, even though that means I ride the short distances, at least that is ME coming in mid-pack (okay, second half..) ...

[Eldron]

well, is it that simple ???

 

For starters - what is a "race" ?

 

 

If the podium positions of a "fun-ride" qualify for a cash price, heck yes .... the ebike has no place in "that group", or more importantly - in any "place" in that event that could in any way influence the result of another catagory !! So let the ebike riders start dead last, and with a good time penalty so that they can not catch the podium riders.

 

 

At the Ostrich Kick event a father and son entered. Father went to the race organisers - he has MS. He allowed to take part, but both him and his son was immediately excluded from any podium contention .. and as his was a geniune situation they were nowhere near podium in any event.

 

 

I am pretty sure at some stage I will buy an ebike. But I KNOW that I have said no to good deals, as I want to pedal as long as possible, even though that means I ride the short distances, at least that is ME coming in mid-pack (okay, second half..) ...

Any time there is a timed result ebikes should be excluded. There will always be one or two exceptions (like the MS case above) but if you get a position then no ebikes. It just isn't fair. Even an ebike cat would not be fair as not all ebikes are equal in power.

[ChrisF]

Any time there is a timed result ebikes should be excluded. There will always be one or two exceptions (like the MS case above) but if you get a position then no ebikes. It just isn't fair. Even an ebike cat would not be fair as not all ebikes are equal in power.

 

BUT, an ebike cat would then ensure a late start and no interferance with the real racing up front.

 

and to take any and all incentives away - NO podium prizes for the ebike riders

 

 

it is a reality.  It is hear.  Manage it .....

[Eldron]

BUT, an ebike cat would then ensure a late start and no interferance with the real racing up front.

 

and to take any and all incentives away - NO podium prizes for the ebike riders

 

 

it is a reality. It is hear. Manage it .....

Removing them completely manages it just fine :-)

 

Have people really become so lazy and/or lacking in fortitude that they'd prefer to cruise a race electronically rather than train and earn it? Shyte.

[Eldron]

BUT, an ebike cat would then ensure a late start and no interferance with the real racing up front.

If it interferes in ANY racing ANYWHERE in the field it's cheating. No different to doping or starting a few categories before yours.

[Thor Buttox]

If it interferes in ANY racing ANYWHERE in the field it's cheating. No different to doping or starting a few categories before yours.

To be fair, someone who can afford a 9kg machine is not really competing against a guy on a 14kg beast, especially if that race is a 14 and under, 45kg division, so it's not that black and white even if we just look at pedal-power only. But yes, I agree with you - a sport should be an equal playing field, and while a weight issue or a component vs component advantage may 'influence' a result, a direct enhancement of human output by ebike makes it a different sport. #inmyopinion

[gummibear]

Any time there is a timed result ebikes should be excluded. There will always be one or two exceptions (like the MS case above) but if you get a position then no ebikes. It just isn't fair. Even an ebike cat would not be fair as not all ebikes are equal in power.

Like someone said earlier though.What stops the Ebiker from helping someone else to podium.

[SwissVan]

Removing them completely manages it just fine :-)

 

Have people really become so lazy and/or lacking in fortitude that they'd prefer to cruise a race electronically rather than train and earn it? Shyte.

Yes it will get there, shortly after the mobile phone glued to the hand always in reach evolution

 

Wait for the ebike with a mobile phone cradle and charging point

[Eldron]

To be fair, someone who can afford a 9kg machine is not really competing against a guy on a 14kg beast, especially if that race is a 14 and under, 45kg division, so it's not that black and white even if we just look at pedal-power only. But yes, I agree with you - a sport should be an equal playing field, and while a weight issue or a component vs component advantage may 'influence' a result, a direct enhancement of human output by ebike makes it a different sport. #inmyopinion

Agreed - wealth and quality of bikes will always be a varying factor.

 

E-bikes are not varying. They're cheating - pedal assist, full electronic or petrol powered motorbiker - same same.

[ChrisF]

Like someone said earlier though.What stops the Ebiker from helping someone else to podium.

 

THIS is the "danger" in allowing e-bikes into standard events .....  and why they should start WAY behind the last casual group - making it impossible to influence the results in any way.

 

BUT, the danger here is that they may race past the backmarkers causing dangerous situations ..... THIS is where things can go bad quickly ...

[BaGearA]

Like someone said earlier though.What stops the Ebiker from helping someone else to podium.

By making all ebikes start LAST and NOT giving them timed results

[Eldron]

By making all ebikes start LAST and NOT giving them timed results

Cycling is a human power sport - why should motor bikes be allowed at all?

 

I don't get it.

[shaper]

By making all ebikes start LAST and NOT giving them timed results

If they start last they will be able to influence a race say by giving that assisted hand push of a cyclist up a hill

 

Personally there is no place for an ebike in a race.  If you decided to own an ebike, then you know you will not be racing with it.