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Trying to understand why people would take "short cuts" - medical reasons aside.

Imho, try see it as evolution... is it F1 a shortcut to running?

I guess there is space for everything, as long as it doesn’t interfere with other space

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Imho, try see it as evolution... is it F1 a shortcut to running?

I guess there is space for everything, as long as it doesn’t interfere with other space

F1 drivers aren't trying to kid themselves and everybody else that they are running, nor do they demand to take part in running events.

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Imho, try see it as evolution... is it F1 a shortcut to running?

I guess there is space for everything, as long as it doesn’t interfere with other space

 

Disclaimer: I'm seriously anti e-bike in races :-)

 

I don't get the evolution idea - evolution is about the weak dying and strong surviving - the weak die out and the species as a whole gets stronger. If anything ebikes are anti evolution....they allow unfit people to keep up with fitter people....

 

I "get" the attraction of ebikes - it's cool going faster than you normally can without sweating as much or going further than you normally can and seeing new places or having a group with a variety if skills all being able to ride together but why you would want to take your ebike to a race and then use a motor to (presumably?) go faster than people without motors? It just doesn't make sense to old school me. A race is timed - you save a chunk of time because you used a motor. Where is the challenge/reward in that?

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Disclaimer: I'm seriously anti e-bike in races :-)

 

I don't get the evolution idea - evolution is about the weak dying and strong surviving - the weak die out and the species as a whole gets stronger. If anything ebikes are anti evolution....they allow unfit people to keep up with fitter people....

 

I "get" the attraction of ebikes - it's cool going faster than you normally can without sweating as much or going further than you normally can and seeing new places or having a group with a variety if skills all being able to ride together but why you would want to take your ebike to a race and then use a motor to (presumably?) go faster than people without motors? It just doesn't make sense to old school me. A race is timed - you save a chunk of time because you used a motor. Where is the challenge/reward in that?

Interesting you quoting Darwin theory ... what is being stronger these days? Not about muscles for sure...

 

Though I agree eMTB and MTB shouldn’t compete together, different thinks and diferent effort required.

 

but if you look back see how MTB evolved over the past 20years, they are not the same machines, weight less, more efficient... they help cyclists much more...

 

Have you tried an eMTB?

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Disclaimer: I'm seriously anti e-bike in races :-)

 

I don't get the evolution idea - evolution is about the weak dying and strong surviving - the weak die out and the species as a whole gets stronger. If anything ebikes are anti evolution....they allow unfit people to keep up with fitter people....

 

I "get" the attraction of ebikes - it's cool going faster than you normally can without sweating as much or going further than you normally can and seeing new places or having a group with a variety if skills all being able to ride together but why you would want to take your ebike to a race and then use a motor to (presumably?) go faster than people without motors? It just doesn't make sense to old school me. A race is timed - you save a chunk of time because you used a motor. Where is the challenge/reward in that?

 

 

thread title...

EBikes on the mountain.

not EBikes in races.

 

maybe go ride your bike, any bike i don't care what you ride.

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Interesting you quoting Darwin theory ... what is being stronger these days? Not about muscles for sure...

 

Though I agree eMTB and MTB shouldn’t compete together, different thinks and diferent effort required.

 

but if you look back see how MTB evolved over the past 20years, they are not the same machines, weight less, more efficient... they help cyclists much more...

 

Have you tried an eMTB?

We're on thw same page - I'm all for ebikes. More choice is always better! Just not in races...

 

I've ridden a few and they're cool but I prefer bicycles for cycling and motorbikes for going fast.

 

In general I see most "crossover" products as a compromise.

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Interesting you quoting Darwin theory ... what is being stronger these days? Not about muscles for sure...

 

Though I agree eMTB and MTB shouldn’t compete together, different thinks and diferent effort required.

 

but if you look back see how MTB evolved over the past 20years, they are not the same machines, weight less, more efficient... they help cyclists much more...

 

Have you tried an eMTB?

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Ye we do have a medical condition called fun loving, why do you have a medical condition that makes you love suffering.

Motorbikes are fun too

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