T-Bob Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Every year! Ah... nuts. I've just put a 2.6 Butcher in Grid on my 9'r. Hope it bucks the trend. That said my 2 x Slaughters have never punctured. Maybe it's just their control / XC range. Oh, I know I've missed it some where but is Nino carrying on?
Mntboy Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Ah... nuts. I've just put a 2.6 Butcher in Grid on my 9'r. Hope it bucks the trend. That said my 2 x Slaughters have never punctured. Maybe it's just their control / XC range. Oh, I know I've missed it some where but is Nino carrying on?Nope. He has called it quits and has gone home. Not that I blame him tbh. Sent from my SM-J200H using Tapatalk
Mntboy Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Since Burry and Sauser's days I remember the phrase '...and Spez/Songo have another puncture...' and again and again.At least once per stage and in both the men's and ladies races. Kinda gets old real quick doesn't it. Sent from my SM-J200H using Tapatalk
SwissVan Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Are the spaz tyres lighter than the opposition tyres?Why are they so useless..?. allegedly... having never ridden them myself
Kranswurm Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Are the spaz tyres lighter than the opposition tyres?Why are they so useless..?. allegedly...having never ridden them myselfI had a set of Captain Controls in Botswana and they were OK.With enough snot they did the job
Jewbacca Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I had a set of Captain Controls in Botswana and they were OK.With enough snot they did the jobI get that, but do you average 26/28kph for 112km? Most guys who hack about here do that on a road bike. It means that the tire is hitting things a lot harder a lot more of the time. Think a sharp knife pressed gently onto your thumb, then think that same knife hitting twice as fast. The speeds these guys ride at is insane and completely changes the game for equipment and equipment abuse/reliability. If you do race at the front end of the field then I apologise, but very few 'Hub' locals have experience at the front end of the field and how the more exaggerated forces reap havoc on equipment
The Bull Shark Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I get that, but do you average 26/28kph for 112km? Most guys who hack about here do that on a road bike. It means that the tire is hitting things a lot harder a lot more of the time. Think a sharp knife pressed gently onto your thumb, then think that same knife hitting twice as fast. The speeds these guys ride at is insane and completely changes the game for equipment and equipment abuse/reliability. If you do race at the front end of the field then I apologise, but very few 'Hub' locals have experience at the front end of the field and how the more exaggerated forces reap havoc on equipment You do realise though that the average MTBer weighs about 85 kg, whereas the average elite MTB racer weighs about 65 kg. That sort of compensates for the speed hitting the sharp object. It also do not explain why the Spez teams have more punctures than the other elite teams. No, they just have balloons for tyres.
Odinson Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 You do realise though that the average MTBer weighs about 85 kg, whereas the average elite MTB racer weighs about 65 kg. That sort of compensates for the speed hitting the sharp object. It also do not explain why the Spez teams have more punctures than the other elite teams. No, they just have balloons for tyres. Spez S-Works tyres are repurposed old inner tubes.
Jewbacca Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 You do realise though that the average MTBer weighs about 85 kg, whereas the average elite MTB racer weighs about 65 kg. That sort of compensates for the speed hitting the sharp object.Does it? Take your 2 ton car and catch a curb at 45kph, then catch the same curb at 75kph. That is 2 tons. I really do see your point but with regards tires and how they behave through rotational force I don't agree over 15 or 20kg. Other parts of the bike, yes. But tires at slower speeds won't cut. They will bounce. Not every time, but then you're also bringing in line choice, skill, fitness etc which is a different ball game. The same tires on the bike of a 70kg guy averaging 26/28kph and lighter are far more likely to suffer damage than under an 85kg averaging 13/16kph. I am not saying the rubber doesn't suck or doesn't perform, just pointing out that tires and brakes aren't measured equally by guys who's average speeds have such large disparity.
Kranswurm Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I get that, but do you average 26/28kph for 112km? Most guys who hack about here do that on a road bike. It means that the tire is hitting things a lot harder a lot more of the time. Think a sharp knife pressed gently onto your thumb, then think that same knife hitting twice as fast. The speeds these guys ride at is insane and completely changes the game for equipment and equipment abuse/reliability. If you do race at the front end of the field then I apologise, but very few 'Hub' locals have experience at the front end of the field and how the more exaggerated forces reap havoc on equipment100 % agree with you.Def not the sharp end.Also I was riding 2bliss tyres on Crossmax wheelsWhat I did do a lot of was thorns and rocks at low pressures...a hellova lot slower but heavier
davetapson Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 I've used Spez tyres for last 5 years or so and like them. Last well. But I don't ride on shale.
LeoKnight Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 So if my calculations are correct, from the teams that completed the Prologue to those that completed the Stage 3 is just under an 8% drop off, compared to the previous year which was just over 18%. but think the weather instead of the route played a bigger role in last years drop-out rate. As well as I think last year was a bit of a wake up for participants that they need to work harder in their training to complete the race.
awesme Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 ... How/Where can we download the Nightly H/L packages, I mean the 25-30 min versions and not the 2 min... Would love to be able to download for previous years. G
FirstV8 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 ... How/Where can we download the Nightly H/L packages, I mean the 25-30 min versions and not the 2 min... Would love to be able to download for previous years. GIts on at 21,30 every night . Not sure which SS channel
The expat cyclist Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Is it just me or is the stomach bug something you wil get at the Epic?
Andrew_Smith Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Its on at 21,30 every night . Not sure which SS channel Not sure if they change the time each day, but on DSTV Guide it is at 19:00 on SS5.
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