Blokman Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Apologies run on a scale from something like:" I'm very, very sorry. I made a big mistake. Can I help you carry the suitcases back to the house?" To something like ,"Okay, okay. I shouldn't have asked your mother if she was wearing a gas mask." This one started at the bottom but the lack of response from them is making it move up the ranks.
eddy Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 3:32 PM, Hackster said: So sure, you have a right to be upset and an editor should concern himself with what a subscriber thinks. Even if he doesn't think that person's complaint is justified. The editor's lack of response is puzzling, but it could be that he is simply away/on holiday."Letters to the editor" is, and has for centuries, been a feature of publishing as a way to share your point of view. Newspapers receive literally thousands of letters and may choose to publish some in a later edition. If the editor is to reply it will be below your letter. Never has an expectation existed for a personal reply and no reader is entitled to one.
ChrisF Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 12:06 PM, Pure Savage said: I don’t really care that much about this, glass houses and stuff. Since Kittel and Swift Have rocked up, i have had to start watching my language and now they getting older, the actual things I say... At the moment, unless Thomas the tank or the paw patrol drops an F bomb my kids wouldn’t know. And here-in lies a truth most replies to this thread seems to miss .... We, as adults, have the choice as to what company we keep, when and where we chose to use what verbal or non-verbal communication .... But when our little ones arrive we CHOOSE to clean up our act, at home, so as to provide them a few years of good examples .... Surely we dont live in a bubble and know they WILL be exposed to lots of "words" and "gestures", all too soon ..... Maritz was hardly in primary school when the words started coming home .... All that said .... at 7 years of age he is HEARING these words from other kids, long before he can actually read the words in a magazine. At the moment his "reading" of any magazine consists of looking at the photos .... and "reading" cycling magazines certainly is a favorite. A much greater challenge for us is the content of the garbage dished up on tv. Even Dstv's parental control is a bad joke ..... search as you might, eventually you find a semi decent program, to be interupted with the most inappropriate adds ...... Sadly there is nothing in the said magazine that he has not heard and seen on tv, despite our best efforts to screen what is shown on tv. A few years back I "wondered" about the type of parent that switched off dstv, claiming it is "for their kids" .... while Maritz is at this impressionable age I do understand. Edit - though we have opted not to switch off dstv .... rather limit the exposure and use this for parental guidance and preparing him for what is waiting outside ..... And then I find myself thinking about "too much cotton wool" ..... surely you cant raise a kid in a "bubble" ..... For now we control his exposure, then explain to him why some things are "not acceptable behaviour". Certainly not easy, and every couple of months the goal posts shift ..... If nothing else, I would prefer a magazine to be clear about their intended audience ..... If I bought it for myself I really could not give a hoot about the odd word or pic, but if I bought it for Maritz I dont want to play "parental guidance" ....
jandemoerin Posted August 20, 2018 Author Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 4:12 PM, eddy said: "Letters to the editor" is, and has for centuries, been a feature of publishing as a way to share your point of view. Newspapers receive literally thousands of letters and may choose to publish some in a later edition. If the editor is to reply it will be below your letter. Never has an expectation existed for a personal reply and no reader is entitled to one.Hi Eddy. There is no letters section in Bicycling.
PygaSchmyga Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 4:39 PM, jandemoerin said: Hi Eddy. There is no letters section in Bicycling.Not really his point, but there we are. Carry on On 8/20/2018 at 4:47 PM, stefmeister said: What a drol.Could not agree with you more. Every village, and all that.
BigDL Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Economy is crashingCyclists getting shot90 cars a day being hijacked in GautengCape Town running out of waterServices falteringLand expropriation on the cards60 people a day being killed in car accidents Steve hofmeyr and Julius Malema both still out of jail. Petrol price going through the roofRhinos getting poachedThe police losing control Global warming................. And this is what worries you. **** bru, I envy your priorities. And your nonsense about your hub name. Seriously
Gen Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 4:20 PM, ChrisF said: And here-in lies a truth most replies to this thread seems to miss .... We, as adults, have the choice as to what company we keep, when and where we chose to use what verbal or non-verbal communication .... But when our little ones arrive we CHOOSE to clean up our act, at home, so as to provide them a few years of good examples .... Surely we dont live in a bubble and know they WILL be exposed to lots of "words" and "gestures", all too soon ..... Maritz was hardly in primary school when the words started coming home .... All that said .... at 7 years of age he is HEARING these words from other kids, long before he can actually read the words in a magazine. At the moment his "reading" of any magazine consists of looking at the photos .... and "reading" cycling magazines certainly is a favorite. A much greater challenge for us is the content of the garbage dished up on tv. Even Dstv's parental control is a bad joke ..... search as you might, eventually you find a semi decent program, to be interupted with the most inappropriate adds ...... Sadly there is nothing in the said magazine that he has not heard and seen on tv, despite our best efforts to screen what is shown on tv. A few years back I "wondered" about the type of parent that switched off dstv, claiming it is "for their kids" .... while Maritz is at this impressionable age I do understand. Edit - though we have opted not to switch off dstv .... rather limit the exposure and use this for parental guidance and preparing him for what is waiting outside ..... And then I find myself thinking about "too much cotton wool" ..... surely you cant raise a kid in a "bubble" ..... For now we control his exposure, then explain to him why some things are "not acceptable behaviour". Certainly not easy, and every couple of months the goal posts shift ..... If nothing else, I would prefer a magazine to be clear about their intended audience ..... If I bought it for myself I really could not give a hoot about the odd word or pic, but if I bought it for Maritz I dont want to play "parental guidance" ....We would all like to keep our kids in a bubble and wrap them in cotton wool cause there is a lot of nastiness in the world..but boy once they hit high school that bubble bursts.. and there's a lot more jaw dropping things going on than bad language..And how do I know this..because my kids talk to me Just as long as your children know right from wrong and learn how to respect others they will be fine even when exposed to a few colourful words and a few zaps from time to time. That being said.. my kids were also small once upon a time so I also understand how overprotective about EVERYTHING parents can be..[emoji6][emoji6][emoji111]
Coolspin Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 I dig the magazine, buy it all the time, excellent loo mag.Not something that would offend me, Zaps etc, if my daughter (7) showed me that pic, I would say, " yes, naughty man, dont do that " I do respect the right of the OP to write to the mag if he doesnt like the content, even if he wants to moan and demand apologies from editors on a cycling forum, so what, its called freedom of speech. If the mag really wanted to make the public aware of the fbomb then they should not have printed the warning on such an inconspicuous part of the mag, like anyone actually reads the spine of a magazine.
the nerd Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 1:37 PM, jandemoerin said: Hi Gen. The content caused offence. It didn't... I wasn't offended, so now what? Does the content cause offence? No. Do you choose to be offended by insignificant rubbish? Yes.
henningvr Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 As said above, the OP has a right to his opinion, like everyone else. However, the premise (loss of values) is subjective. It is merely the OP's opinion, nothing more. Offense is the collateral damage of free speech. I am offended that I spent the time reading all 9 pages of this fred.
ChrisF Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 6:21 PM, the nerd said: It didn't... I wasn't offended, so now what? Does the content cause offence? No. Do you choose to be offended by insignificant rubbish? Yes. me now confused .... "the NERD" not offended by images and words ... "Jan De Moer In" wants age-sensitive wording, though not too worried about his own wording on this forum, which we share with our kids ... o-well, Maritz does not grow up in a bubble so he can learn some lessons from this thread .... about "actions" vs "words" .... trust that wont offend anybody
gummibear Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 I bought the magazine and my 2 boys who are 10 and 12 paged through it and never noticed the pic. I only noticed it after ready this thread [emoji85][emoji3]
Vetseun Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Ag nee ******. Hierdie fred is te lank om te lees.
Geronimo Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 OFF TOPIC A long long time ago when I was ''n polisieman'' in the ''Suid Afrikaanse Polisie Mag'', ''n Kolonel'' told me that once we start neglecting the policing of petty crime, we will lose the fight against crime. Wise words spoken 30 plus years ago. ''Die Kolonel'' later became a General. I am writing this to reflect on the CRIME that is discussed on the Hub on a daily basis and not with regard to the OP's post. Sadly, as predicted, we are losing the fight. Back to the OP Society (us) have allowed the steady degradation and we have accepted the ''anything goes'' attitude. Morals have flown out the window. We as parents and even grandparents have a duty to protect our kids/grandkids from unacceptable behavior/exposure for as long as possible. If its zap signs or violence or whatever, then surely it's your prerogative to speak up. I feel for the OP but unfortunately, most of society doesn't see anything wrong with the article/picture. Well done for voicing your concern and what you believe in. Do change that swak name though to Janvriendelik or something less agro
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