Craai Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Apologies to the organiser for posting information on their number of entries.Some things need an apology, I would say this isn’t one of them Vetplant and Long Wheel Base 2
Frosty Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Did they complain?Yes Some things need an apology, I would say this isn’t one of themWhether I agree or not, an apology is the right thing to do. Long Wheel Base 1
Craai Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Yes Whether I agree or not, an apology is the right thing to do.Point taken. So, @Tshwane Cycle organisers, seeing that you are already lurking on this forum, why don't you provide the real number of entrants as opposed to the "Utopia-what-we're0hoping-for" numbers you have been distributing? GaryvdM, Vetplant, peetwindhoek and 2 others 5
Dirkitech Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Point taken. So, @Tshwane Cycle organisers, seeing that you are already lurking on this forum, why don't you provide the real number of entrants as opposed to the "Utopia-what-we're0hoping-for" numbers you have been distributing?I would also like to know.The R330 entry fee had me second guessing the whole time, but the disparity on entry numbers decided it. Whether sharing the numbers was wrong or not, unethical/deceitful advertising is worse. Vetplant 1
Vetplant Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I would also like to know.The R330 entry fee had me second guessing the whole time, but the disparity on entry numbers decided it. Whether sharing the numbers was wrong or not, unethical/deceitful advertising is worse.Allot of value for consumers are tied into the relationship and trust with the "seller". It is typically best to keep customer relationships in tip top shape or people will quickly turn away and no longer see value in an offering, even though nothing even changed in the actual product. Having only one year under the belt, the Tshwane Classic organisers don't have allot of goodwill to fall back upon. Whereas frequenters of CTCT, Amashova or 947 will have more tolerance for things that don't add up. It surely is a challenge to start up a successful mega event. Dirkitech 1
Spinnekop Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Why is everyone so hooked on how many participates? Strange animals indeed. It's an awesome event. Much prettier than 94.Tough couple of climbs. Tom Jenkins is one of the best climbs Pretoria has to offer. Cycling heaven.Good venue. Voortrekker monument.Entry fee is reasonable. ASG has been sucking up entry numbers for years now. Only now you guys realize it? shaper, Dogs, Long Wheel Base and 1 other 4
GaryvdM Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I have to agree. How many other people ride a race is irrelevant to me. I want an enjoyable safe route. Bonus points for road closers. Vetplant, Sydd and Pieter-za 3
Vetplant Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I have to agree. How many other people ride a race is irrelevant to me. I want an enjoyable safe route. Bonus points for road closers.Keep the cars away from me and you have my attention. Emperors and Sattelite didn't do it, thus I no longer even bother looking at them as options.
Karooryder Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) Why is everyone so hooked on how many participates? Strange animals indeed. It's an awesome event. Much prettier than 94.Tough couple of climbs. Tom Jenkins is one of the best climbs Pretoria has to offer. Cycling heaven.Good venue. Voortrekker monument.Entry fee is reasonable. ASG has been sucking up entry numbers for years now. Only now you guys realize it? I was LITERALLY about to comment the same. Vir varksteaks, we have a (really well organized) "new" full road closure event through our very own pretty Purple Trees just in time to warm the legs up for 94.7 and people whine on about questionable participant numbers and assumed dubious advertising. Instead of this entitlement boolsheeeeet, why not thank ASG for making this possible and bringing a super and affordable event right to our doorsteps? Strange animals indeed... (Edit - inserted "and affordable"...which it is!) Edited October 25, 2018 by Karooryder Dogs, Long Wheel Base, Pieter-za and 2 others 5
Craai Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I was LITERALLY about to comment the same. Vir varksteaks, we have a (really well organized) "new" full road closure event through our very own pretty Purple Trees just in time to warm the legs up for 94.7 and people whine on about questionable participant numbers and assumed dubious advertising. Instead of this entitlement boolsheeeeet, why not thank ASG for making this possible and bringing a super event right to our doorsteps? Strange animals indeed...Not an ASG event ???? Dirkitech 1
Karooryder Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Not an ASG event My bad - if I'm not mistaken the inaugural race was organized by ASG.
Rick Sanchez Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 People complaining about entry numbers and people complaining about the people complaining about the entry numbers. What a fun thread this turned out to be.
Spinnekop Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Not an ASG event ????It is my understanding it is......well.....same people just moving under a different "brand" or promoter name. Whatever. Doesn't really matter.What does is, it is not ASG pricing this year. Karooryder and GaryvdM 2
Long Wheel Base Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I was LITERALLY about to comment the same. Vir varksteaks, we have a (really well organized) "new" full road closure event through our very own pretty Purple Trees just in time to warm the legs up for 94.7 and people whine on about questionable participant numbers and assumed dubious advertising. Instead of this entitlement boolsheeeeet, why not thank ASG for making this possible and bringing a super event right to our doorsteps? Strange animals indeed...I am one of the first to bash ASG and in the thread for last years race I was one of the first to comment how well the race went off. Yes they had teething problems but all in all it was a good one. I really enjoyed the route, flat and fast till the climb in the poort followed by that jenkins climb followed by some awesome high speed corners under the jacarandas towards the monument and then the brutal short and sweet climb into the monument. So tbh I don't care how many do it, its a great race. Escapee.. and Pieter-za 2
peetwindhoek Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 It is my understanding it is......well.....same people just moving under a different "brand" or promoter name. Whatever. Doesn't really matter.What does is, it is not ASG pricing this year.^this
GaryvdM Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) I mapped out the route on ridewithgps too, as it has better tools to analyse sections of the route. In case anyone else wants it: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28835466 Edited October 25, 2018 by GaryvdM Aluman, the_roadie and Frosty 3
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