braamverster Posted November 20, 2019 Share Its very simple if you want that time do 7 x 5min all out efforts twice a week on nice long climbs, naturally you'll loose weight and climb faster which means you'll keep up with your seeded group. don't loose contact over the first 4 climbs and you will be fine. ride 3 hour - 4 hours days on weekends. the first 10km of the Argus is very fast so make sure when you do your intervals your hitting them at 175bpm so you get use to climbing at lactate threshold. good luckThanks, I agree, Northcliff here I come.... Kinubi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted November 20, 2019 Share I break my CTCT up into 4 parts. I make sure my positioning is good in these 4 sections and I prepare myself to dig VERY deep. I make sure that I have eaten and drank before these 4 sections as I don't want to be worrying about trying to do either.1. Edinburg drive2. Smits3. Chappies4. Suikerbossie.Everything else in between I make sure I ride smart and conserve energy. Mamil, Frosty, Pure Savage and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted November 20, 2019 Share I break my CTCT up into 4 parts. I make sure my positioning is good in these 4 sections and I prepare myself to dig VERY deep. I make sure that I have eaten and drank before these 4 sections as I don't want to be worrying about trying to do either.1. Edinburg drive2. Smits3. Chappies4. Suikerbossie.Everything else in between I make sure I ride smart and conserve energy.This sounds far too much my race strategy advice of 'Go till you blow, just make sure you eat and drink and you should be fine'..... You told me to charge for that and here you are handing it out for free?! Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted November 20, 2019 Share  Group matters lot, I agree, But to give people some hope, on that perfect day in 2018, even in start group G, 28% people finished below 3hrs... see below from racetec data   % of riders who did sub 3 A 70% B 61% C 43% D 37% E 36% F 29% G 28%  I'm specifically referring to the Pedalpower seedings not the start groups If you were in start group G for the CTCT you probably had a low C / high D pedalpower seeding + 2018 were perfect conditions. Just to repeat- if on the day your strategy involves "Eye of the Tiger" playing in the background with you doing the ride of your life you are doing it wrong, sub-3 on the day should be easy, the hard work is in the preparation. Edited November 20, 2019 by Skubarra BMCfan, DieselnDust, Zatopek and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted November 20, 2019 Share This sounds far too much my race strategy advice of 'Go till you blow, just make sure you eat and drink and you should be fine'..... You told me to charge for that and here you are handing it out for free?! LOL but your advice was for a mamoth, awesome, exclusive bucket list race. Mine is a race that just about every cyclist in the country has done or wants to do. Jewbacca and Wannabe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braamverster Posted November 20, 2019 Share I'm specifically referring to the Pedalpower seedings not the start groups If you were in start group G for the CTCT you probably had a low C / high D pedalpower seeding + 2018 were perfect conditions. Just to repeat- if on the day your strategy involves "Eye of the Tiger" playing in the background with you doing the ride of your life you are doing it wrong, sub-3 on the day should be easy, the hard work is in the preparation.OK, got it - just searched for my pedal power rating - its F, so quite some work to do... I will play "Eye of the tiger" as I go up and down Northcliff MDJ, DieselnDust, Skubarra and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted November 20, 2019 Share Just to repeat- if on the day your strategy involves "Eye of the Tiger" playing in the background with you doing the ride of your life you are doing it wrong...Coffee snot! Jewbacca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted November 20, 2019 Share LOL but your advice was for a mamoth, awesome, exclusive bucket list race. Mine is a race that just about every cyclist in the country has done or wants to do.Ha! It's actually part of one of my more serious 'words of wisdom' to myself when I start any race, be it a 200 mile foot race or the Argust.... 'You only get to blow once'... Once you blow you blow. If it's a 5km time trial, a 500km AR, Argust or Freedom Challenge, once you blow you blow and coming back from that is usually crippling to your goals. DieselnDust and Long Wheel Base 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted November 20, 2019 Share Ha! It's actually part of one of my more serious 'words of wisdom' to myself when I start any race, be it a 200 mile foot race or the Argust.... 'You only get to blow once'... Once you blow you blow. If it's a 5km time trial, a 500km AR, Argust or Freedom Challenge, once you blow you blow and coming back from that is usually crippling to your goals.I have blown too many times to try that strategy. I am not brave enough. Jewbacca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted November 20, 2019 Share I have blown too many times to try that strategy. I am not brave enough.I think my favourite protagonist of said strategy currently is Jim Walmsly... It's DNF or 1st place for him. I always just make sure I eat and drink so I'm usually ok.... Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted November 20, 2019 Share How do you know someone is lying about their FTP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakkals. Posted November 20, 2019 Share How do you know someone is lying about their FTP?They tell you their FTP kevinrb, Duane_Bosch, DieselnDust and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted November 20, 2019 Share They tell you their FTPEdzackry! DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted November 20, 2019 Share Ha! It's actually part of one of my more serious 'words of wisdom' to myself when I start any race, be it a 200 mile foot race or the Argust.... 'You only get to blow once'... Once you blow you blow. If it's a 5km time trial, a 500km AR, Argust or Freedom Challenge, once you blow you blow and coming back from that is usually crippling to your goals.pfft uniblower, sounds like you enter the paincave with pap batteries in your headlamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted November 20, 2019 Share They tell you their FTPcan we not take all this computer talk elsewhere. if you need to download some file you can do it in the background Jase619 and NickGM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted November 20, 2019 Share An interesting topic, my goal next year is to get my old man who just turned 65 a sub 3. We plan to do 2 seeding events, he is getting a coach and there will be plenty of wheel sucking.  Sub 3 bike sorted already!! His best CTCT out was 2 years ago on this bike 3:21 (his 21st Argus) I actually have that same goal - I'm trying to get my first sub3 AFTER becoming a member of club21!  my best time is actually 2:50, but some people say the 2015 race does not count. also involves actually doing seeding rides and k@k like that. Wannabe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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