Kranswurm Posted February 8, 2021 Share Technically you did not do a trade with the guy, so you should not have negatively rated or commented, as such you abused the system and took sides! Next time keep your urge to rate to yourself, unless you are actually doing the deal. I don't care if you think it was a moral high ground, you and others who did the same thing, now make a mockery of the rating system, which is a slippery slope! It becomes a free for all and it will end up no one can take the rating system seriously!Know one seems to have the fogiest about whats going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted February 8, 2021 Share Know one seems to have the fogiest about whats going onPerhaps they should read the terms of use to clear the fog with regard to rating a sale, only the buyer and seller can rate each other https://community.bikehub.co.za/docs/terms_of_use Kranswurm, NickGM, TheoG and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted February 8, 2021 Share Ugh. Ok. Yes. Helping a fellow hubber out to get a reaction out of the guy who screwed him over and kept quiet was wrong? The seller did the same to the buyer btw. There was no mudslinging...just asking him to do the right thing. And in the past it was possible to remove/edit comments on there if i recall, which i fully intend doing still...since it all ended relatively well in the end. I’ll give him 5 stars for doing the right thing infact. Thats the premise of helopeter too. The system allows it. If it were blasphemy it would not be possible to do it that way and comments would only be possible between confirmed buyers snd sellers. Anyway, meh...give me a warning point for breaking the terms of use re the rating system. I will wear it as a badge of honor in this instance. Edited February 8, 2021 by MORNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoG Posted February 8, 2021 Share Ugh. Ok. Yes. Helping a fellow hubber out to get a reaction out of the guy who screwed him over and kept quiet was wrong? The seller did the same to the buyer btw.There was no mudslinging...just asking him to do the right thing. And in the past it was possible to remove/edit comments on there if i recall, which i fully intend doing still...since it all ended relatively well in the end. I’ll give him 5 stars for doing the right thing infact. Thats the premise of helopeter too. The system allows it. If it were blasphemy it would not be possible to do it that way and comments would only be possible between confirmed buyers snd sellers. Anyway, meh I totally get your point and I also considered doing it, but, I also tend to agree @shaper. imho, the ratings should be between buyers and sellers only. Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted February 8, 2021 Share I totally get your point and I also considered doing it, but, I also tend to agree @shaper. imho, the ratings should be between buyers and sellers only.Yes, i agree...in a perfect trading scenario. TheoG and Hairy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipV Posted February 8, 2021 Share This, and the broken Di2 saga just reaffirms that I will not only buy something sight unseen, but also not sell it sight unseen. To add to the drama we now even have people rating the buyer without ever buying from said buyer. What stops people from abusing it further and giving negative ratings to people because they don't like the tone of their messages to a mate. ChrisF, shaper, BigDL and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted February 8, 2021 Share Since when do you swear at you customer(s)? I struggled with the afrikaans, just about made out its pretty much what Robert posted except for a few bits and the swearing. Then I stopped reading further.A customer can be you best friend, but never ever talk in a casual manner when doing business, especially slang and swearing. My suppliers(some friends) respect the fact that I don a business hat when doing business with them. There is no room for friends. Vetplant, FootballingCyclist, BigDL and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted February 8, 2021 Share Yes, i agree...in a perfect trading scenario.Even in an imperfect scenario! Vent all you want in a forum thread, even comment if the deemed guilty party comments, or phone them and vent you anger! We all vent and comment in the forum thread! But the only way to get a working rating system and and a more perfect scenario is if the rating system is not abused. In this case it was and by many! Long Wheel Base and BigDL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted February 8, 2021 Share This, and the broken Di2 saga just reaffirms that I will not only buy something sight unseen, but also not sell it sight unseen. To add to the drama we now even have people rating the buyer without ever buying from said buyer. What stops people from abusing it further and giving negative ratings to people because they don't like the tone of their messages to a mate.With some exceptions, I will never buy something second hand unless I can go and pick it up myself PhilipV, Eddy Gordo, Underachiever and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted February 8, 2021 Share The mods seem to not care about any of this though. Please come deliver upon us your judgement oh moderatey ones.Maybe the popcorn is too good? The silence is deafening though. /Comic sans/. I think TheoG and porqui 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted February 8, 2021 Share Yes yes...let it go now.The oke fu*cked up and we can now move on or are you going to going to demonstrate some moreI am going to hang around some more. You have not enjoyed the thread, and noted as much a couple of times ... unfollow if it unsettles you? babse, Quagga, ChrisF and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted February 8, 2021 Share Anyway, meh...give me a warning point for breaking the terms of use re the rating system. I will wear it as a badge of honor in this instance.honour! MORNE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted February 8, 2021 Share honour!You go away with your Brits english lol. my keyboard doesnt auto correct the ‘murican way of spelling honor or color etc lol Long Wheel Base, Vetplant and TheoG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craai Posted February 8, 2021 Share Hi All,I know Morne personally and can attest to his person. He is not a scammer and a really decent person. He is working at getting admin right. He clearly in ignorance made an honest mistake. He made an honest mistake with me also in the past, but he was truly willing to make right and it lead to a great relationship built.We are always quick to fry someone without knowing them from a bar of soap. Now, can we calm down and give this guy a chance?DanieThanks Morne. “We are always quick to fry someone without knowing them from a bar of soap“True that. In the same vein then we shouldn’t take the word of someone vouching for his friend's character with a history of 1 post on the forum? Edited February 9, 2021 by Craai Quagga, Skylark, Wayne Potgieter and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted February 8, 2021 Share Cancel Culture has found it's grimy way to Le Hub.This was all just poor form and bad manners. Now, if only this were Friday and there was some hot popcorn and melting butter.I am reminded of some fair barneys over the years. Ah, to reminisce of the good ole days... ChrisF and Steady Spin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemmerbal Posted February 8, 2021 Share I might be adding little value to this conversation by saying the following, but having read all the unpleasantries, I think, personally, a good old fashioned phone call could possibly have prevented some of the drama (I don't know if OP did try to phone the seller or if the seller tried to phone the OP). Whatsapp messages or emails are always open to misinterpretation depending on the recipient's mood, I've seen it break up relationships/spoil working relationships and more. Yes, it is good to have a record, but you can follow up a phone call with a short message confirming what was agreed, just so it then gets placed on record, once the personal connection has been made and you realise the person on the other end is real, and not some random Forum name. Things are also less likely to be misinterpreted at that moment. I miss the days of phone calls, things were simpler then. Anyways, glad it was resolved eventually. Edited February 8, 2021 by gemmerbal TheoG, ChrisF, i24 and 18 others 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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