Tried and tested ways to burn fat

[ChrisF]

2 minutes ago, Spafsack said:

The tried and tested way of burning fat, well, what i do is if the chops are a bit fatty i lay them upright next to each other. This way the fat burns nice and crispy. Very similar when you do a spare rib in the closed rooster sideways in the braai. But i guess everyone has there own ways......

 

Top tip for braaiers all over .... 🤣

[The Ouzo]

7 minutes ago, Eldron said:

This is an important point. Kilograms is a convenient way to measure weight loss initially but as you get thinner and fitter then how you look and performance are better indicators. Nicely done!

 

And pay very little attention to BMI.

According to the website that you linked to I should way between 55kg and 76kg for my height. But the only thing it took into account was my height. If I weighed in at 55kg I swear you'd see my bones poking through my skin and have zero muscle.

[TheoG]

4 minutes ago, ouzo said:

And pay very little attention to BMI.

According to the website that you linked to I should way between 55kg and 76kg for my height. But the only thing it took into account was my height. If I weighed in at 55kg I swear you'd see my bones poking through my skin and have zero muscle.

Agree, BMI is BS.  Rather go for a healthy fat %, somewhere in the middle of the range for normal people and closer to the lower end for the race snakes.

Edit:  Unfortunately Discovery and the like does use BMI for the "health assessments" ...  .

Edited January 11, 2022 by TheoG

[The Ouzo]

4 minutes ago, TheoG said:

Agree, BMI is BS.  Rather go for a healthy fat %, somewhere in the middle of the range for normal people and closer to the lower end for the race snakes.

Edit:  Unfortunately Discovery and the like does use BMI for the "health assessments" ...  .

according to BMI calcs I'm overweight, even if I drop down to my target of 75kg. 

[Jewbacca]

16 minutes ago, stefmeister said:

Emphasis is on fad diets and x-week training plans. Losing weight is easy, and can be done quickly - don't let anyone tell you otherwise or believe their bull**** excuses. The key to success is consistency. Motivation is what gets you started, and to start losing weight. Consistency is what achieve the results at the end of the day. 

There's only one way to be consistent, and that is to find/do something that you actually enjoy with tangible results, not cardio on a treadmill, or these silly crossfit-dancing classes.  

PFFFT!

Billy Blanks had me at 'DOUBLE TIME!'

I actually used to go to jazzercise and Tae Bo classes pretty often because it was super fun. 

Dancing is food for the soul

[eala]

10 minutes ago, TheoG said:

Agree, BMI is BS.  Rather go for a healthy fat %, somewhere in the middle of the range for normal people and closer to the lower end for the race snakes.

Edit:  Unfortunately Discovery and the like does use BMI for the "health assessments" ...  .

According to BMI i am just short of being obese. And i am not ,maybe 3kg overweight .An accurate way to get a good idea of your expected weight is to add 10 kg when male or subtract 10 kg when female of your height in cm .Example I am 194 cm so i should weigh between 94 and 104 kg depending on my built .If i was a female it is 84 to 94 kg ,again depending on your body shape .Big hands and wrists are at the heavier scale and so on .It is surprisingly accurate 

[TheoG]

3 minutes ago, eala said:

According to BMI i am just short of being obese. And i am not ,maybe 3kg overweight .An accurate way to get a good idea of your expected weight is to add 10 kg when male or subtract 10 kg when female of your height in cm .Example I am 194 cm so i should weigh between 94 and 104 kg depending on my built .If i was a female it is 84 to 94 kg ,again depending on your body shape .Big hands and wrists are at the heavier scale and so on .It is surprisingly accurate 

Your formula is a bit out for me.  I'm 1.86m so according to that I should be between 86 and 96.  That's a bit heavy, my ideal weight is around 84 according to fat %.

Edited January 11, 2022 by TheoG

[Frosty]

At my race weight (76) my BMI was 22.94 compared to current 24.45.

[eala]

3 minutes ago, TheoG said:

Your formula is a bit out for me.  I'm 1.86m so according to that I should be between 86 and 96.  That's a bit heavy, my ideal weight is around 84 according to fat %.

Obviously age and your build plays a big part .Matt Beers and i am the same height ,but i weigh 20 kg more .He is super skinny .I weighed 84 kg when i was 16 years old and played lock at rugby .If i had to go down to 84 kg now i would be skin and bones .When i was super fit and had no stomach fat i weighed 96 kg ,and that is accurate when using this method 

[Andrew Buckley]

1 hour ago, stefmeister said:

Emphasis is on fad diets and x-week training plans. Losing weight is easy, and can be done quickly - don't let anyone tell you otherwise or believe their bull**** excuses. The key to success is consistency. Motivation is what gets you started, and to start losing weight. Consistency is what achieve the results at the end of the day. 

There's only one way to be consistent, and that is to find/do something that you actually enjoy with tangible results, not cardio on a treadmill, or these silly crossfit-dancing classes.  

True - this why I like low carb.  Some people may call it a fad, but:

• It is easy
• It works
• You won't go hungry

And you don't have to cut out all carbs - Just generally white carbs: sugar, bread, rice, pasta.

Note: For some reason it doesn't seem to work as well for women as men.

Andrew

[Jewbacca]

30 minutes ago, eala said:

Obviously age and your build plays a big part .Matt Beers and i am the same height ,but i weigh 20 kg more .He is super skinny .I weighed 84 kg when i was 16 years old and played lock at rugby .If i had to go down to 84 kg now i would be skin and bones .When i was super fit and had no stomach fat i weighed 96 kg ,and that is accurate when using this method 

Yes, but that heavy muscle mass is still weight. It's all bout function.

Corne Krige got down from a 100kg rugby player to a 74kg cyclist in his 40s with the same ish BMI.

If you want to be efficient, have the right muscles. You can 100% train and shape your body if you are dedicated enough.

I also saw Todd Blackadder in NZ at 2m tall ex 110kg giant weighing in at 80 odd kg post retirement at a cycle race in NZ.

Most of us are genuinely just not disciplined or dedicated enough to really lose the weight be it fat and muscle mass we would like to. 

[TyronLab]

1 hour ago, Jewbacca said:

PFFFT!

Billy Blanks had me at 'DOUBLE TIME!'

I actually used to go to jazzercise and Tae Bo classes pretty often because it was super fun. 

Dancing is food for the soul

Jissis I just had a pang of nostalgia back to early-teen me, watching Tae-Bo infomercials for much longer than I'd like to admit while flipping through channels waiting for either a Big Green Clean Machine to lift a safe or that bald dude to flip a pancake onto Isabel Jones' head.

The vrou and I just started eating a little better (she found out she has some insulin resistance, brought on by some complications during popping out out last born), and the broccoli salad we had yesterday was great, just had me farting like a racehorse. 

I'm trying to help her along getting her to focus just on getting out of the door 3-4 times a week. She can focus on which intensity etc. etc. later, the toughest part is just forming and keeping the habit of adding regular exercise to your routine.

Edited January 11, 2022 by TyronLab

[DieselnDust]

On 1/6/2022 at 11:23 AM, Jewbacca said:

The answer is caloric deficit.

You are better off getting (and using) a calorie counter app, cut out sugar and importantly, avoid liquid calories.

So many people track what they eat and not what they drink. The sugar/calorie count in most drinks is massive.

The keto state/fasting exercising is all the rage but wont do anything noticeable if you don't maintain a caloric defecit or binge eat/drink.

A sustainable lifestyle and eating/drinking habits are better than anything that promises 'fat burning'. 

Hit this one straight out the park, the umpire's had to get a ladder to indicate just how big a 6 this one was, oh wait he’s sending it the third umpire for approval on scaffolding 

Edited January 11, 2022 by DieselnDust

[eala]

I did some really scientific research on the beach this December and i found .Wait for it ! Fat people are always eating or drinking wherever they are 

[dave303e]

On 1/11/2022 at 4:15 PM, TheoG said:

Agree, BMI is BS.  Rather go for a healthy fat %, somewhere in the middle of the range for normal people and closer to the lower end for the race snakes.

Edit:  Unfortunately Discovery and the like does use BMI for the "health assessments" ...  .

Discovery vitality is a joke, they know eff all about fitness.

10hours for a 120km adventure race- 0 points

10 hours for an ironman, 6000 points. Apparently one is unhealthy and dangerous and the other isn't.

Run a 20min 5k during the week- 0 points, under 30mins

Run a 20min 5k on a Sat as part of parkrun 300 points.

On 1/11/2022 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Buckley said:

True - this why I like low carb.  Some people may call it a fad, but:

• It is easy
• It works
• You won't go hungry

And you don't have to cut out all carbs - Just generally white carbs: sugar, bread, rice, pasta.

Note: For some reason it doesn't seem to work as well for women as men.

Andrew

here is some light reading...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1774636/

 

Diet plans are the best business plan going.

People get overweight, find the latest fad and spend money on books, juicers, foods, keto tests etc etc

They lose weight and feel good but it is unsustainable and after losing for a few months they fall off the wagon. They put on more weight and 1 year later(usually around 1 Jan) they start the process again. New book, new fad, new diet plan next person making money. 

[TheoG]

Yip, a lot of things with Discovery Vitality points make zero sense ....