weekly tss score

['Dale]

Food for thought: Stage 1 - TSS 138 IF 0.98, Stage 2 - TSS 147 IF 0.9, Stage 3 - TSS 165 IF 0.88.

 

My quads hurt looking at that data

Edited July 21, 2014 by ' Dale

[IdeJongh]

Last week, 650TSS with a comfy IF of 0.80

 

Had the best ride this morning, on study break but had to drop the car for a service, so stuck the bike in the back and took a ride home.......

 

......I might have accidentally stopped in at bike park for some singletrack!!

[Patchelicious]

My quads hurt looking at that data

Yeah, and then, get this, I get a mail from my coach asking me why I was slacking! Kid you not! - " I went through your downloaded logs – you are riding really strong and almost a bit too conservatively! ....... I want you to start much harder next race – make sure you warm up well first, then really give it a good go – obviously I understand that it is group dependent as well" - sweet lord Too embarrassed to show the rest

Edited July 23, 2014 by Patchelicious

[davetapson]

I installed Cheetah now, but they also seem to be using TRIMP? And how does TSB compare to TSS?

 

I've run GC alongside TP for a little while.

 

Seems that TRIMPS calculate out at about 1.7 TSS points. But it varies by a fair amount. This is estimated TSS i.e. using avg and max HR for TSS calcs.

['Dale]

Yeah, and then, get this, I get a mail from my coach asking me why I was slacking! Kid you not! - " I went through your downloaded logs – you are riding really strong and almost a bit too conservatively! ....... I want you to start much harder next race – make sure you warm up well first, then really give it a good go – obviously I understand that it is group dependent as well" - sweet lord Too embarrassed to show the rest

Get those rollers out next to the car, while sipping on a flask of mega-strong koffie

[Boesman Benson]

Not a big week,

 

TSS 467

IF 0.9

 

Antonj - sorry for chirping in here. Use it if you want.

 

May I suggest that you maybe check your FTP. You post almost weekly IF numbers around 0.9. That seems a bit high. Unless all your training sessions are super hard and almost races like, your FTP number is most probably off. If that is the case your TSS and other parameter etc will be skewed.

 

Maybe schedule yourself another 20min suffer session and re-check. You might be stronger than you think you are .

[obree]

Antonj - sorry for chirping in here. Use it if you want.

 

May I suggest that you maybe check your FTP. You post almost weekly IF numbers around 0.9. That seems a bit high. Unless all your training sessions are super hard and almost races like, your FTP number is most probably off. If that is the case your TSS and other parameter etc will be skewed.

 

Maybe schedule yourself another 20min suffer session and re-check. You might be stronger than you think you are .

 

Have suggested this before on another posting, with similar high IF numbers, but seems guys are impressed with the high numbers. IMHO it is virtually impossible to get a weekly IF of 0.9 as it would imply riding at 90% of FTP every day, including warm up and cool down.

[Jakkals.]

Antonj - sorry for chirping in here. Use it if you want.

 

May I suggest that you maybe check your FTP. You post almost weekly IF numbers around 0.9. That seems a bit high. Unless all your training sessions are super hard and almost races like, your FTP number is most probably off. If that is the case your TSS and other parameter etc will be skewed.

 

Maybe schedule yourself another 20min suffer session and re-check. You might be stronger than you think you are .

 

Will do FTP Test next week Tuesday and see, I'm a hond "poefie" timetrialist and dont expect to much from my FTP test.

 

However, coming back to high IF. Most of my training is almost all out, almost everything on IDT. workouts per Andy Coggan's Training and racing with a powermeter. So all my workouts are based on FTP, so regardless of what your FTP is, you always gonna be in a specific zone relating to your FTP. Someone doing workout NP-W4 with a FTP of 210 and someone with a FTP of 280, will have exactly the same IF at the end of the workout.

 

Doing these on the IDT doesnt really allow for much or any coasting to speak off.

 

Have suggested this before on another posting, with similar high IF numbers, but seems guys are impressed with the high numbers. IMHO it is virtually impossible to get a weekly IF of 0.9 as it would imply riding at 90% of FTP every day, including warm up and cool down.

 

You suggested that my FTP is to high

Edited July 24, 2014 by antonj

[andydude]

Mick Rogers winning stage file loaded on Training Peaks. 415TSS, 150mi, 6,828kJ, 9,594ft climbing, 6.5hrs, peak 20min = 6.09w/kg!

['Dale]

Mick Rogers winning stage file loaded on Training Peaks. 415TSS, 150mi, 6,828kJ, 9,594ft climbing, 6.5hrs, peak 20min = 6.09w/kg!

 

Ma se hoenners...

Edited July 24, 2014 by ' Dale

[Patchelicious]

Have suggested this before on another posting, with similar high IF numbers, but seems guys are impressed with the high numbers. IMHO it is virtually impossible to get a weekly IF of 0.9 as it would imply riding at 90% of FTP every day, including warm up and cool down.

Huh, don't you guys train FLAT out everytime, the whole time? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUhcqWCRQ70

['Dale]

Interesting too...

 

After the stage I told our coach that I wanted to see my data for the stage and I was averaging something like 380 Watts over the first hour of racing and over that first climb. When I saw that it was like, “Hey! That’s pretty good for an old man!”

 

Jens the Legend's blog on bicycling.com

[Bianchisti]

Would be interesting to have JV' 380watts for that first hour translated to a percentage, NO?

 

 

Alternatively watts/kg????

[obree]

Will do FTP Test next week Tuesday and see, I'm a hond "poefie" timetrialist and dont expect to much from my FTP test.

 

However, coming back to high IF. Most of my training is almost all out, almost everything on IDT. workouts per Andy Coggan's Training and racing with a powermeter. So all my workouts are based on FTP, so regardless of what your FTP is, you always gonna be in a specific zone relating to your FTP. Someone doing workout NP-W4 with a FTP of 210 and someone with a FTP of 280, will have exactly the same IF at the end of the workout.

 

Doing these on the IDT doesnt really allow for much or any coasting to speak off.

 

 

 

You suggested that my FTP is to high

I suggested FTP was 300w but was set at 280w therefore when riding at 300w you accumulate way more points than actually working for.

[Boesman Benson]

Would be interesting to have JV' 380watts for that first hour translated to a percentage, NO?

 

 

Alternatively watts/kg????

 

Jens is probably between 70 to 75kg?? That would make it around 5W/kg for that first hour. Not many Vets that can do that.

[Jakkals.]

I suggested FTP was 300w but was set at 280w therefore when riding at 300w you accumulate way more points than actually working for.

 

At least I'm getting stronger then?

 

Will definitely do another test. My current FTP was taken from a 1h Criterium a long while ago, but then got injured and didnt adjust it down.