NotSoBigBen Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 how many hours did you put in to get to 800+ TSS points? Trained around 14 hours for 600 TSS points As I recall TSS is a measure of duration and INTENSITY and requires that your FTP is set correctly .....
Eugene Oppelt Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 how many hours did you put in to get to 800+ TSS points? Trained around 14 hours for 600 TSS points Theoretically: 1 hr amounts to 100 TSS, based on your FTP
jcza Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 how many hours did you put in to get to 800+ TSS points? Trained around 14 hours for 600 TSS points 18 hours but I cheated yesterday. Rode 209km for TSS of 449.3
IdeJongh Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 For those interested, I started training for 3 Towers after Monster and have tried to build to the highest fitness level (CTL) I could manage within the time allowed. A cold here and there can be noted but all in all not too unhappy with the way the training went. Magalies I rode on a CTL of 53 and a TSB of +7.1, whereas I'll start 3T with a CTL of 79 with a TSB of +17.7
Jaco-fiets Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I assume the CTL is your fitness level? I also use this chart from May and I must say my riding has improved and it corresponds exactly to what the chart shows. My fitness currently hovering between 60 and 65. Looks like this is where I will have to maintain it since I won't be able to improve much on that with the amount of time I have to train. I either need very high volume weeks now or have interval sessions everyday
rouxtjie Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I assume the CTL is your fitness level? I also use this chart from May and I must say my riding has improved and it corresponds exactly to what the chart shows. My fitness currently hovering between 60 and 65. Looks like this is where I will have to maintain it since I won't be able to improve much on that with the amount of time I have to train. I either need very high volume weeks now or have interval sessions everydayCTL - Chronic Training Load..basically how fit you are. You want it as well as form as high as possible before a stage race outing
IdeJongh Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I assume the CTL is your fitness level? I also use this chart from May and I must say my riding has improved and it corresponds exactly to what the chart shows. My fitness currently hovering between 60 and 65. Looks like this is where I will have to maintain it since I won't be able to improve much on that with the amount of time I have to train. I either need very high volume weeks now or have interval sessions everyday It does become increasingly difficult to improve, law of diminishing returns and all, which is why pro's become so precise, pedantic, whatever you want to call it, because a few points in the wrong direction can mean the difference between 1st and 6th. But for us mere mortals, remember all CTL/TSB levels are relative to your FTP, so as your power levels increase you can improve without seeing it in the CTL number. In other words, someone with a FTP of 300w will kick someone's ass with a FTP of 240w if both sat on the same CTL/TSB levels. So if you reach your upper limits, REST, then begin again but work on increasing your FTP.
Jaco-fiets Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 CTL - Chronic Training Load..basically how fit you are. You want it as well as form as high as possible before a stage race outingThat is how I understand it. Can you read anything of value into your "fatigue" score? I know it shows your current level of fatigue but should that also be at a certain level preferably or is form and fitness the only 2 variables worth checking. Also, in the graph I got from you Rouxtjie there is a "race strength" column. Any more info on this variable?
Jaco-fiets Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 It does become increasingly difficult to improve, law of diminishing returns and all, which is why pro's become so precise, pedantic, whatever you want to call it, because a few points in the wrong direction can mean the difference between 1st and 6th. But for us mere mortals, remember all CTL/TSB levels are relative to your FTP, so as your power levels increase you can improve without seeing it in the CTL number. In other words, someone with a FTP of 300w will kick someone's ass with a FTP of 240w if both sat on the same CTL/TSB levels. So if you reach your upper limits, REST, then begin again but work on increasing your FTP.Thanks for this informative response!
IdeJongh Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 That is how I understand it. Can you read anything of value into your "fatigue" score? I know it shows your current level of fatigue but should that also be at a certain level preferably or is form and fitness the only 2 variables worth checking. Also, in the graph I got from you Rouxtjie there is a "race strength" column. Any more info on this variable?Sounds familiar.... "Race strength" was a measure I was experimenting with, the combination weighted in various ways between fitness and form, to try and find a mathematical optimal point that relates to performance. Will tweak it as I do more races towards end of the year.
DJpak Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 Ye~~ I did FTP test today. I got 4.3w/kg!!! HahahaGetting slowly better but Im so happy Can anyone tell me which ppa group u r in and how much w/kg u get If u dont mind? So I can be motivated more by ur w/kg!! Im in J my goal is going up to either I or H soon ~ Sorry for the bad english hahahaha
Jakkals. Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 Ye~~ I did FTP test today. I got 4.3w/kg!!! HahahaGetting slowly better but Im so happy Can anyone tell me which ppa group u r in and how much w/kg u get If u dont mind? So I can be motivated more by ur w/kg!! Im in J my goal is going up to either I or H soon ~ Sorry for the bad english hahahahaBliksem, sounds like you should start in front of the pro's and they need to catch you.
Jracer57 Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 I'd like the workout if u still have it to share?
Eugene Oppelt Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Ye~~ I did FTP test today. I got 4.3w/kg!!! HahahaGetting slowly better but Im so happy Can anyone tell me which ppa group u r in and how much w/kg u get If u dont mind? So I can be motivated more by ur w/kg!! Im in J my goal is going up to either I or H soon ~ Sorry for the bad english hahahahaIf calculated correctly, that is an above average result.Well done. There's potential to race well in the top groups. Just remember that racing success is not about that figure alone, but about training effectively, about pacing yourself well, making good tactical decisions and reading the external conditions, etc.Sterkte!
DJpak Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Bliksem, sounds like you should start in front of the pro's and they need to catch you.No way hahahaha
DJpak Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 I'd like the workout if u still have it to share?I do this since.. last year..? Hahaha
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