Wyatt Earp Posted May 23, 2013 Share More and more cyclists are seemingly doping to enhance the EGO rather than keeping the FUN FACTOR in mind!!!!! HAVE FUN using yor own steam!!! Well, I preached this sermon quite some time back and I was lambasted for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmonkey Posted May 23, 2013 Share Just remember , the biggr picture is not only the people using BUT the suppliers when you nip the bud you still have to cut the branch off to stunt the growth!!!! Not only that but the mere fact that people at races be it the EPIC or whichever walk around afterwards and have bragging rights, that is SHAMEFUL!!!! afterIt's amazing how quick some Hubbers are quick to jump in and voice their opinion on the guys character based on a profile pic. Are we saying because the guy is well built and has a tattoo that he automatically a doper? If that's the case then do we automatically think the same of pretty much every rugby player in Super Rugby, most footballers, some of our cricketers etc etc? You don't know the history behind why he decided to spend hours in the gym working on his body or why he chose to take up cycling as an alternative sport. You don't know what type of guy he is so what gives any of us the right to call him a typical "gym boy" etc?It's not like he was out to win any of the races, he was just out there enjoying time on the bike. For those of you who finished ahead of the guy it should even be of concern. For those who finished behind him and it bothers you, I'm really not sure the extra place would have really impacted your life in any big way. The fact that his name has even been made public I think is just bang out of order!! The authorities could have easily ran the story without naming him. Before all the brave Hubbers out there start with the abuse, can I just say that I am totally against Doping in Sport and that anybody caught doping should be punished. I am sure if given the chance this guy would say the same! All I'm saying here is "play the ball and not the man" here Hubbers!! I just think this whole thing has done nothing to clean up the sport but has rather been a PR exercise for the authorities! Next time maybe they should concentrate on the sharp end of the race rather than spend all their cash on random back of the field testing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmonkey Posted May 23, 2013 Share Well, I preached this sermon quite some time back and I was lambasted for it. FUN is THE name of the GAME!!!!!! People normally lambsting are the grey area or the users in my opion!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasco77 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Funny, I did not see the Dangle, he then edited and it does not show the post was edited.Anyways, the guy is not well built, probably never took cycling very serious till his drunken bet, got a big fright and with some of his gym crony contacts decided to spike himself through the event. All purely speculative , but based on the profile pic, that's my story and I am sticking to it. Trawling through the guys Social Media page to find pictures and then posting them on here kind of highlights my point??? SwissVan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmonkey Posted May 23, 2013 Share Just remember at last years EPIC another amateur was caught doping they WILL slowly be found out and reoved from the sport be it PR exercise or not they will all be caught !!!!!! Hallelujah PRAISE!!! GOOD NIGHT.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felt cg Posted May 23, 2013 Share I dealt with Barry 2 years back here on the hub when he sold his SC Heckler - he was a honest,stand up guy who even went out of his way to move forward a business trip so he could get the bike to me sooner. I reckon it's got to be a mix up with a prescription or something.I see from the Epic pics he is still riding his 26" SC Superlight - yes he has been riding for a while. Craig mrbaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baaisikilist Posted May 23, 2013 Share SO... It seems I've found myself in a bit of a pickle... The person in those pics is me... Barry Warmback I've been following this on and off today, deciding on whether or not posting is a 'smart' move. Those high and mighty people sitting at their computers or on their phones may comment on just how 'smart' I am, or what kind of person I look like I am from my pictures. I'm not going to take an aggressive stance to the negative comments made by people who've never met me or know who or what I'm about, (one that a 'gym bunny' may typically be expected to take). Instead, I'm going to tell my story, and you can judge or slander me from your pedestals from there. I'm automatically painted with the Lance Armstrong/David George brush, but at least you get to ask me questions or swear at me if you see fit. 1st off, let me start by apologising to you, the cycling community. It's been a rough ride of late with the spotlight almost constantly on doping in cycling, and the last thing i ever imagined was that I would ever be responsible for further tarnishing the reputation of a sport that i love just as much as all of you. I'm sorry for dragging the sport down. I did not do so with any intent. In no way am i about to plead any sort of innocence or try come across as a victim. I've done the crime, so i'll have to do the time, whatever the powers that be determine that to be. This is just to tell my side and what has happened, a bit of a chain of events if you care. It was said there are always 3 sides to a story, here's mine. My truth. I'm posting a response here 1st. I have not yet responded to the email from the UCI advising me of the adverse analytical findings (i have 7 days in which to respond), nor would i give any datails to the reporter from a KZN newspaper who called my office earlier for the scoop. I will not be wasting any more of the CSA's funding that some of you contribute towards with your license fees, so i'm not going to ask them to test my B sample, its the same pee, from the same cup, that i filled and sealed myself to avoid any tampering and contaminating, so it's going to reveal the same finding. Right, flame suit ON, here we go... I didn't take any Bioplus or cold meds or some kind of nasal spray, and I'm not going to try pull the wool over anyones eyes and lie through my teeth and try con people into believing my innocence, not you guys, not the UCI, not CSA and not SAIDS. The Stanazolol found can only be from Winstrol that i have in fact taken, on many occasions. It surprised me to discover that it was Winstrol/Stanazolol they found in my system, being that the last time i took any was at least 6 months ago, so it should have cleared my system by now. I know immeditely you'll think that i took it and hoped it would be out before I get tested as to 'get away with it scott free', but this is not the case. I took that Winstrol long before i had any idea that I'd EVER do a Cape Epic. I'm a recreational cyclist. I enter the odd race, not as a competitor, but rather as a participant. I fell in love with mountain biking after the 1st ride i ever took in Delta Park. I used it to relax and as a bit of cardio and fat loss for the other sport I enjoy, bodybuilding. I used to be a competitive and enter the odd show, and yes, just as a Specialized Sworks Epic makes you perform better than a Makro Dunlop, steroids made you perform better at bodybuilding. Nobody picks you out of the 10 other guys on stage who look better than you because you're natural. It's a drug sport, everybody knows it and willingly participates or doesn't. I've taken 'Juice' on and off for the past 12 or 13 years. Some people head to the pub and enjoy a few beers after work, some like to pop past a mate and roll a little spliff to puff on and unwind, I enjoy going to the gym and lifting a couple of weights with my fiance or a mate, and on occasion, like to take steroids to improve on my physique. It's MY choice, and it harms nobody but myself. (I do not smoke or take any drugs, coke, or heroin or meth or otherwise, nor have i touched any form of alcohol in almost 6 years now). That said, over the past two years, and particularly so in 2012, I've become less interested in gym and a lot more passionate about cycling. I decided after ka**ing off at 3 towers last october, that i'm going to spend less time trying to put on or maintain my size, and a lot more time on the bike, trying to lose size and get smaller and lighter. The last steroid i took was before 3 Towers in October last year, and it wasn't Winstrol, it was Testosterone Propionate. That's what I expected to show up in a test if anything. A mate of mine that also did 3 towers was doing Epic with his brother in-law, so i asked if they'd mind me training with them because i want to focus on MTB and getting lean and fitter, and maybe just go to gym for a bit of strength and conditioning. I started riding with them then went away in December and stuck to their same program. January came around and my partner's brother in-law pulled out and said he cant do the Epic. My partner called me up and said 'will you be my partner for Epic ?". I told him i'd love to, but it's way outside of anything i'll ever be able to afford, so i can't. He said that i needn't be concerned, the entry is paid for, all i'd need to do is train with him and pay the rider substitution fee. AWESOME...! I recieved and accepted an invite from him and logged all my details in on the rider zone profile page etc. Who would have thought for 1 second about turning down a free Epic entry based on something they took 3 months ago, that may or may not still be present in their system...? To be honest, i didn't even spare a second thought for what i'd taken over 3 months earlier. I was off the juice (still am) and flat out into mountain biking and didn't care if i went to gym once a month or less. Imagine my surprise, make the cutoff of Stage 1 of the Epic by half an hour after the toughest day ever on a bike, to be greeted by a guy with a clip board saying I've been randomly selected for UCI dope control.I KA**ED myself....! Suddenly everything comes back to me, "oh ****, what if something is still in my system from months ago...?", "what was the last stuff i took and when...?". I was escorted to UCI dope control and went through the whole procedure. That's where i made the mistake of not coming clean and stating that i may be guilty of a rule infringement. I panicked... It's day 1 of the Epic, my partners whole family is there to support, his dad's company paid for our entry, our kit, and my fiance's accomodation for the whole race. Do i say something now and it's all over before it begins, or do i keep quiet and hope that the past is the past and hopefully it's out of my system and life can continue.I chose the latter, and unfortunately yes, it sucks to be Barry right now. I DID NOT take Winstrol during my Epic preparation, nor during the Epic. In fact as stated above, i never knew in the middle of last year when i did take PED's that i'd ever be given the opportunity to do a Cape Epic in this lifetime.If I WAS going to take something to help me perform better at the Epic, believe me, it would have been something that I'd be certain would enhance my performance and endurance enough to actually be worth while spending money on, like EPO. I obviously know where i could've gotten my hands on some. They did test me for EPO incidently. I was contacted by the president of CSA, Mr William Newman, yesterday at around lunchtime. He told me that he'd like to forward me an email from the UCI regarding an adverse analytical finding of the substance Stanazolol in a random drug test conducted at the 2013 Absa Cape Epic, and that once i receive the mail i'll have 7 days in which to respond. I said no problem, i'll look at it. Recieved the email an hour or so later on my Blackberry, but the attachments were too big for me to open so I'd need to take a look from a computer. Got home from work late, didn't look at the mail, left for a meeting early this morning, but no worries, i have a few days to respond, i'll do so later on. Half way through the meeting my phones are beeping and ringing off the hook about CSA having issued a press release to the public with my name on it and that it's all over the hub already. No warning from Mr Newman so i can tell my family or my partner what's goin on.I call him and ask how they can just publically release my name without notifying me, or without conducting any investigation, or before I've even responded to the UCI email. He tells me "no that's the protocol". Would it have hurt to explain the protocol to me yesterday when he was just 'popping me an email from the UCI'...? I've admitted to you all here what i've done, BUT, had i not done anything wrong and did want my B sample analyzed, by the time it came back clean the hub and cycling community would have already drawn the above posted conclusions and tarred n feathered me. Proving any innocence would have been too late. The 'protocol' needs some refinement. Anyway, as i said, not going to turn this into me being the victim. I will say that I do think I'm about to be made an example of. CSA now gets to use me to show the public that doping will not be tolerated at any level. I accept this, and don't expect not to be punished. SAIDS gets to say how its visibly clamping down and winning the war againsed drugs in sport, and the UCI gets to brag about the renewed control over the sport at all levels in all countries. I do wonder if the focus on the 50 tests conducted on actual local Pro's that have been swept under the rug will now be out of the limelight as a result of my 'bust'. It cost them 5 or 6 grand to test me at the back of the field, yet Wendell Bole is hosting a NATIONAL XCO and Downhill event at Thaba Trails this weekend, without a sniff of funding or help in the form of manpower from CSA.Are your membership fees being spent in the right places...? Though i dont believe i've harmed any1, nor gained any financial enrichment, nor threatened anyones livelihood or chance at any endorsements, I know that I've infringed on the rules, and I am truly sorry again for bringing the sport into disrepute. I also apologise if any1 who finished behind me at the Epic believes i cheated them out of a place. I didn't do so with any malicious intent. I trained damn hard for the Epic and sacrificed the same amount of time away from family and friends to be able to tick the race off my list of MTB accomplishments (as you've mocked me for saying). I intend to co-operate fully with the authorities and take the punishment like a man.. In a TapOut shirt... FIRE AWAY... jcmeyerSS, ians H2Sport, BushGoblin and 48 others 51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted May 23, 2013 Share Trawling through the guys Social Media page to find pictures and then posting them on here kind of highlights my point??? Who did that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted May 23, 2013 Share SO... It seems I've found myself in a bit of a pickle... Well.. at least that sorts out most of the rumours, thanks for owning up. The only issue or question i have, is how do we know your telling the truth about using it only for body building? Traditionaly dopers are liars. Well done for coming on here tho, that takes some guts. gummibear and r0adrunner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baaisikilist Posted May 23, 2013 Share Well Swiss, you don't. Why would i admit anything at all if i was only going to half a$$ it. If I'm a liar, I would have just kept my mouth shut altogether. As i said in my post, if i was intentionally doping to better my results, it wouldn't have been with Winstrol. Joe Low, Daft Vader, Epic Rookie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavmeister Posted May 23, 2013 Share Well done for owning up Barry, you have my respect for that. porqui, fanievb, Wayne Potgieter and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Potgieter Posted May 23, 2013 Share Hectic stuff.... DIPSLICK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGR Posted May 23, 2013 Share Big up for coming clean. Do you think you were targeted in anyway because of the muscular look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baaisikilist Posted May 23, 2013 Share BTW, the guy who posted my company contact details, You're a piece of work. What if I'd posted on the forum that you're a child molester then put your company contact details up...? What the hell is wrong with you...? Very brave behind your keyboard there... fanievb, Pants Boy, Wet Ears and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted May 23, 2013 Share Well Swiss, you don't. Why would i admit anything at all if i was only going to half a$$ it. If I'm a liar, I would have just kept my mouth shut altogether. As i said in my post, if i was intentionally doping to better my results, it wouldn't have been with Winstrol. Yeah i know, i want to believe you really but you remeber Oom Lance....look what happened there. There is always a but and unfortunately thats the way people who dope come across, no matter what the reason only you will really know. Its going to be hard, all the best bru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted May 23, 2013 Share BTW, the guy who posted my company contact details, You're a piece of work. What if I'd posted on the forum that you're a child molester then put your company contact details up...? What the hell is wrong with you...? Very brave behind your keyboard there... Well done for coming clean.At least my guess about you knowing the stuff from gym was right.Where were your details posted, unless I missed all that.Agreed, that is unnecessary. ChUkKy, slowpoke, DIPSLICK and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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