Donovan Le Cok Posted July 26, 2018 Share So around the time the positive result came out? The positive came out two days ago, so no. montyzuma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted July 26, 2018 Share The positive came out two days ago, so no.The athlete (and hence probably the coach to) would have know long ago. Possible scenarios:The coach didn't know about the doping, and decided to distance himself when he found out about it.The coach knew about the doping, and decided to distance himself when he knew a positive test result was on it's way. Edited July 26, 2018 by GaryvdM Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted July 26, 2018 Share The positive came out two days ago, so no. Shortly after being tested then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted July 26, 2018 Share The positive came out two days ago, so no. I'm not saying anything other than detailing the timing. The test was on 3 March. Cycling South Africa reports that Carmen Buchacher has been found guilty of an anti-doping rule violation of Article 2.1 and Article 2.2 of the SAIDS Anti-Doping Rules after an out-of-competition test conducted on 3 March 2018 confirmed the presence of ESAs, including Recombinant EPOs and Analogues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky4130 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Out of competition?! SAIDS can't even test the Top 10 in competition or top 3 in Age Categories but they have time & money to test out of competition. So who gave SAIDS the Tip Off? Edited July 26, 2018 by milky4130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted July 26, 2018 Share Out of competition?! SAIDS can't even test the Top 10 in competition or top 3 in Age Categories but they have time & money to test out of competition. So he gave SAIDS the Tip Off?Maybe the coach suspected something? Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubed Posted July 26, 2018 Share Said coach is a good friend of mine. I know for a fact that him and this athlete had parted ways at the beginning of March.thanks for clearing that up - like I said - its hardly likely that his trajectory as a coach would be risked on any one athlete - regardless of their potential still cant get my head around the risk/ reward trade-off going on here, I am sort of hoping that its a horrible mix up - but then all of these cases seem to have that element to them all said - I am glad the system is working - if for nothing else that those who are honest might be feeling that it is worthwhile Donovan Le Cok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted July 26, 2018 Share thanks for clearing that up - like I said - its hardly likely that his trajectory as a coach would be risked on any one athlete - regardless of their potential still cant get my head around the risk/ reward trade-off going on here, I am sort of hoping that its a horrible mix up - but then all of these cases seem to have that element to them all said - I am glad the system is working - if for nothing else that those who are honest might be feeling that it is worthwhile A mix up like, I asked for Evening Primrose Oil. I did think it was a little strange that instead of rubbing 3 drops on my neck I was shooting 15ml into my forearm. EPO does not just "find its way" into your everyday life. Its rather expensive, people wouldnt throw it around willy nilly. The masking agent is even more expensive.. hence why OOC test would pop her. Maybe her partner whatsapp'ed the tester when she was getting dropped in every training ride. Underachiever, Dirkitech and Popit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted July 26, 2018 Share Overall I'm pleased - I reckon every positive test is a gentle reminder to the other dopers (or prospective dopers) of what the consequences are. Wil6, BikeisLife, Patchelicious and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted July 26, 2018 Share So, the date is not that random, day before start of TOGH. Where she was fighting for podium. GaryvdM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donovan Le Cok Posted July 26, 2018 Share The athlete (and hence probably the coach to) would have know long ago. Possible scenarios:The coach didn't know about the doping, and decided to distance himself when he found out about it.The coach knew about the doping, and decided to distance himself when he knew a positive test result was on it's way. From what I know, they hadn't been getting on for a while. The athletes get tested frequently, if he split with an athlete every time they got tested, he wouldn't have any clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ians H2Sport Posted July 26, 2018 Share I remember reading this post and thinking how awesome it is when these riders succeed. Strong race results, new sponsors, doors opening up....... Doping is SO uncool Carmen Buchacher added 3 new photos.5 November 2017 · Final stage of Wines2Whales! What an incredible event. My personal strongest w2w yet . Although and unfortunately we did not quite close the gap of 5 seconds I appreciate Michelle's fighting spirit. 4th place overall!!!Specialized Bicycles Velocity Sports Lab Hout Bay Velocity Sports Lab HiltonComplete Cyclist PowerBar Stages Power SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@grootlem Posted July 26, 2018 Share Rourke Croeser now Carmen Buchacher. I always had a bad feeling about her. If i have saids number i can point them to the next one stringbean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted July 26, 2018 Share Rourke Croeser now Carmen Buchacher. I always had a bad feeling about her. If i have saids number i can point them to the next oneWhats the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted July 26, 2018 Share Maybe the coach suspected something? Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Just a general question - Why do we always say the coach & partner would have / should have known? Surely it can be possible to dope without them knowing? Especially if its done in a way that your increase in performance is incremental over a time period and not sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted July 26, 2018 Share Rourke Croeser now Carmen Buchacher. I always had a bad feeling about her. If i have saids number i can point them to the next one Maybe Bikehub should run a dopers fantasy league, sounds like you would win. Wonder what the prize would be... Dirkitech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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