Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

[DuncanDoughnuts]

that is very interesting ... do you think it is more core fatigue due to handling the heavier e-bike?

No, I think on the normal bike I can easy get up to 40km/h on str8 or flat sprint sections. 

 

On the ebike once you hit that limit it is extremely difficult to pedal faster than say 28km/h 

 

the only place the ebike has an advantage is going up or accelerating out of slow corners from what I have felt 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

Then again, some Brit mtb mag found the ebike was faster on the downs, something to do with the weight and gravity :-) 

 They musty have legs like track sprinters to get the bike that fast ... my skinny legs struggle 

 

I suppose on steep long sections the ebike does plough through the rough faster ... you don't get pinged off line. 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

Of course you can - nobody is disputing that but we're talking commuting. 

 

Can you? Sure. Should you? Hell no.

 Ah ok .. I don't commute.. ever... so ignore my comment then

[Chris_]

 Ah ok .. I don't commute.. ever... so ignore my comment then

 

Apologies if I've said this before but your hub name cracks me up! Very sharp

[DuncanDoughnuts]

Then again, some Brit mtb mag found the ebike was faster on the downs, something to do with the weight and gravity :-) 

I think to get a true reflection as I would also be very interested to see this , and I know you did the enduro event ... and the course for the bikes was the same as the non ebike ... so perhaps we can look at the results there to see whats faster downhill ? 

Im sure on some courses the ebike will be faster ...but I suspect the majority of the downhills the Analog is faster?

[Hairy]

No, I think on the normal bike I can easy get up to 40km/h on str8 or flat sprint sections. 

 

On the ebike once you hit that limit it is extremely difficult to pedal faster than say 28km/h 

 

the only place the ebike has an advantage is going up or accelerating out of slow corners from what I have felt 

Are you tyres the same for both bikes?

[DuncanDoughnuts]

Are you tyres the same for both bikes?

Yes ... DHR and DHF

[aquaratza]

Then again, some Brit mtb mag found the ebike was faster on the downs, something to do with the weight and gravity :-) 

I have a ~25 kg Turbo Levo and a 13 kg Stumpjumper and it feels like the Levo goes down hill a lot faster than the Stumpy. There are sections on roads downhill where I stop pedalling on the Levo, but keep pedalling on the Stumpy. They have identical wheelsets.

 

My Levo goes uphill faster, but it still feels like a heavy bike. It isn't as nimble as the Stumpy. I've also found the Levo feels a lot more forgiving on trails downhill; it seems to really stick to the trail.

 

On the topic of speed limiting: my friend's Levo stops helping him at 32 km/h. His bike is a newer Levo and is still under warranty, so he hasn't tried modding it to remove the speed limit. As a result I always pull away on road downhill sections, regardless of the bike I'm on, which really irritates him. Such fun haha.

Edited January 18, 2021 by aquaratza

[ChrisF]

No, I think on the normal bike I can easy get up to 40km/h on str8 or flat sprint sections.

 

On the ebike once you hit that limit it is extremely difficult to pedal faster than say 28km/h

 

the only place the ebike has an advantage is going up or accelerating out of slow corners from what I have felt

What ebike do you have ?

 

This "anchor" was a known issue with some older ebikes.

 

 

With the newer ebikes you easily peddle along at 30 to 40km/h with a slight downhill, then maintain it on the level. The "shift" from assisted to unassisted is totally seamless.

 

 

 

PS ... yes. Two dowhill sections on my commute to work. Traffic and safety is now the only determining factor of my speed on these sections ... this applies equally to my ebike and standard hardtail commuter.

[DuncanDoughnuts]

What ebike do you have ?

 

This "anchor" was a known issue with some older ebikes.

 

 

With the newer ebikes you easily peddle along at 30 to 40km/h with a slight downhill, then maintain it on the level. The "shift" from assisted to unassisted is totally seamless.

 

 

 

PS ... yes. Two dowhill sections on my commute to work. Traffic and safety is now the only determining factor of my speed on these sections ... this applies equally to my ebike and standard hardtail commuter.

Turbo Levo

Edited January 18, 2021 by DuncanDoughnuts

[gummibear]

First time in over 20 years that private land owners are blocking access to mountain bikers and all because of the twats on ebikes.

They have no respect for the land owners and their families.

 

[gummibear]

[TheoG]

First time in over 20 years that private land owners are blocking access to mountain bikers and all because of the twats on ebikes.

They have no respect for the land owners and their families.

 

 

Always the few screwing it up for the many ...

[edkin]

First time in over 20 years that private land owners are blocking access to mountain bikers and all because of the twats on ebikes.

They have no respect for the land owners and their families.

 

How is this picture related to twats on E-Bikes?

[aquaratza]

Looks like properties closed in France and Germany: I'd imagine there was nothing stopping people riding scramblers on that land in the past. Some people are assholes, doesn't matter if they're walking, running, riding a bicycle, riding an ebike or riding a scrambler. Disrespectfullness is technology agnostic.

 

Opening your land, or it being open de facto will get abused. If you open your land you have to accept that you'll get assholes and either make peace with that as a land owner or put steps in place to limit assholes.

 

You can't reason with a mob. It just takes one. Tygerberg club and the Traverse is a good example.

Edited January 22, 2021 by aquaratza

[gummibear]

How is this picture related to twats on E-Bikes?

For the last 3-4 months the private land owners have been battling with these groups of ebikers.They scare their dogs,horses and cows.Most of them are youngsters and ride in groups of 6-12 at a time.In some cases some of the people have been threatened by the riders.

 

Now the roads through these private areas have been closed and no access to some of the best trails[emoji3525][emoji2959]