Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

[MrJacques]

Wow, that is crazy with some crazy skill !  I did not even dream that that is possible.

 

Indeed. But he can probably do a lot of that on a normal bike, just slower.

[gummibear]

I need to rant about these “ebikes” a bit.

 

These types of ebikes have become very popular here ,in the Ardennes and in Germany over the past 2-3 months.

These things run at 40-50km/h and the riders are just plane dangerous on trails.

They are electric motorcycles but you can buy a pedal kit that makes them technically legal to use in the forests.

Went riding this morning and one of my local routes was blocked off and I couldn’t get through.I found it strange that a path was closed off to the public .

I bumped into one of the forestry workers and told me that the guys with these bikes have be frightening the land owner when she rides her horses.Her husband had decided to block all public access to their land.

Just a matter of time before they hit a hiker,A horse or someone walking their dog.

 

[gummibear]

[MrJacques]

I need to rant about these “ebikes” a bit.

 

These types of ebikes have become very popular here ,in the Ardennes and in Germany over the past 2-3 months.

These things run at 40-50km/h and the riders are just plane dangerous on trails.

They are electric motorcycles but you can buy a pedal kit that makes them technically legal to use in the forests.

Went riding this morning and one of my local routes was blocked off and I couldn’t get through.I found it strange that a path was closed off to the public .

I bumped into one of the forestry workers and told me that the guys with these bikes have be frightening the land owner when she rides her horses.Her husband had decided to block all public access to their land.

Just a matter of time before they hit a hiker,A horse or someone walking their dog.

 

 

Agreed.

 

They look like loads of fun, but shouldn't be allowed on cycling / hiking trails.

[Shebeen]

I need to rant about these “ebikes” a bit.

These types of ebikes have become very popular here ,in the Ardennes and in Germany over the past 2-3 months.

These things run at 40-50km/h and the riders are just plane dangerous on trails.

They are electric motorcycles but you can buy a pedal kit that makes them technically legal to use in the forests.

Went riding this morning and one of my local routes was blocked off and I couldn’t get through.I found it strange that a path was closed off to the public .

I bumped into one of the forestry workers and told me that the guys with these bikes have be frightening the land owner when she rides her horses.Her husband had decided to block all public access to their land.

Just a matter of time before they hit a hiker,A horse or someone walking their dog.

 

Not an ebike.

[aquaratza]

Yup, not an eBike. I alluded to these kinds of bikes becoming a problem back when Sani2C anounced they'd be allowing eBikes.

 

I was thinking of the Greyp G12S at the time. I am an eBike owner.

Edited December 16, 2020 by aquaratza

[Kranswurm]

Not an ebike.

No I think it is an ebike....not an mtb

[Shebeen]

No I think it is an ebike....not an mtb

Putting pedals on something does not make it a bicycle

[Kranswurm]

Putting pedals on something does not make it a bicycle

Agreed

I do not consider ebikes as mountain bikes or road bikes and I dont agree with them taking part in road or mtb events

[aquaratza]

If you put a motor on a bicycle, is it still a bicycle?

Edited December 17, 2020 by aquaratza

[Kranswurm]

If you put a motor on a bicycle, is it still a bicycle?

No

[ChrisF]

If you put a motor on a bicycle, is it still a bicycle?

Some 40 years ago there were "help-my-trap" bicycles. Basically a very small internal combustion engine that helped you to get up hills, useless for top end speed.

 

 

Today the "e-bike" does the same.

 

 

Pity people dont bother trying to understand the differences between:

- ebike

- pedelec

- electric motorcycle

 

 

YES - an ebike is a bicycle

 

 

PS . Aquaratza I know you know the differences, and the benefits of an ebike.

Edited December 17, 2020 by ChrisF

[aquaratza]

PS . Aquaratza I know you know the differences, and the benefits of an ebike.

 I'm just getting an idea of the depth of consideration in kranswurm's position to see if there's an interesting debate in there or something to be learnt, but their answer was "No", so I guess it's time to make dinner  .

Edited December 17, 2020 by aquaratza

[Tankman]

A big HELL YES from me!

They are insane, full of power and the ones I tested, built for any terrain you can throw at it!

 

What is even better?  I havent been on a bike in over 5 years and had a moerse jol without breaking a sweat!

 

If you want to race with the racing snakes, use your "normal" bike.
If you want to have a jol, pop to the shops quickly, do your favorite singletrack 3 or 4 times over.... jump on an E-bike!!!    

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDwTmEXFFII

[DR ◣◢]

So many things wrong with that video...

 

But, I would not mind adding an e-bike to the stable for something like exploring everything Karkloof has to offer. Some of those climbs are brutal. My knees and back will thank me.

 

It does look like a lot of fun.

Edited January 8, 2021 by DR ◣◢

[Tankman]

So many things wrong with that video...

 

 

 

I am all ears!