Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

[BuffsVintageBikes]

The problem with that logic is that we have already maximised the minimum input/maximum output problem - we invented a motorbike. No input - all output.

 

 If we are forced to give it a name along the "efficiency improving line" then the ebike would be a gap closing regression I guess....

 

You're clearly never raced a motorbike because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the thing rides itself? Go google MX & Enduro riders HR outputs during training at racing, it makes cycling feel like playing chess.

[Goodbadugly]

Why put pedals/drive train on e-bikes anyway? I am sure they can shave at least a kilo or so off the bike. Put the motor in the rear hub and use the "saved weight" for a bigger battery. That way you don't have to sweat at all.

[Hairy]

you sure that HR is not a result of the "I can't believe I am still alive" factor when hammering on the MX/Enduro bikes

You're clearly never raced a motorbike because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the thing rides itself? Go google MX & Enduro riders HR outputs during training at racing, it makes cycling feel like playing chess.

[Hairy]

worst place to put weight on a bike, especially a dually

Why put pedals/drive train on e-bikes anyway? I am sure they can shave at least a kilo or so off the bike. Put the motor in the rear hub and use the "saved weight" for a bigger battery. That way you don't have to sweat at all.

[Paddaman]

https://youtu.be/66mWAWgUfi8?t=148

 

 

My new ebike

[Goodbadugly]

worst place to put weight on a bike, especially a dually

What does a motor weigh? A wide range cassette can easily weigh 500 grams (if you do not buy the R6k models)

[Zatopek]

The only ebike related arrangement I would like to see is an increased trail permit fee for them.

 

My argument is that if they can do more km's/up-down laps per time unit or per day, then they do more trail damage and need to contribute more to the maintenance of that. I don't see why I should subsidize their fun.

 

Other than that, "toggle that switch" and enjoy the spin....

Edited November 7, 2018 by Zatopek

[Paddaman]

You're clearly never raced a motorbike because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the thing rides itself? Go google MX & Enduro riders HR outputs during training at racing, it makes cycling feel like playing chess.

You clearly never played chess because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the pieces move themselves?  Go google chess players HR outputs during play, it makes MX feel like riding e-bikes.

[rorydewet]

It seems the E-Roadbike will be next. Guess the KOm on Suikerbossie will be out of reach from now on. Ban them from Strava, it will make flagging rides a nightmare.

strava already caters for e bikes

 

on strava there is a pre set drop down for choosing type of ride as an e bike ride

[Eldron]

You're clearly never raced a motorbike because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the thing rides itself? Go google MX & Enduro riders HR outputs during training at racing, it makes cycling feel like playing chess.

 

The amount of energy the rider expends versus the motor is minuscule.

 

People make watts - engines make kilowatts.

 

To quote a recent poster - you have no idea watt you're talking about 

[Dirkitech]

The only ebike related arrangement I would like to see is an increased trail permit fee for them.

 

My argument is that if they can do more km's/up-down laps per time unit or per day, then they do more trail damage and need to contribute more to the maintenance of that. I don't see why I should subsidize their fun.

 

Other than that, "toggle that switch" and enjoy the spin....

That makes logical sense, just like heavier vehicles on the road contribute to higher maintenance costs, thereby attracting higher toll fees.

 

strava already caters for e bikes

 

on strava there is a pre set drop down for choosing type of ride as an e bike ride

That is true, but much like the multiquote feature provided for by bikehub, people are too lazy to change an option on both platforms

[BuffsVintageBikes]

You clearly never played chess because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the pieces move themselves?  Go google chess players HR outputs during play, it makes MX feel like riding e-bikes.

 

I googled it because you got me thinking   Their HRs simply spike during pressure plays but they don't remain elevated at all

[lechatnoir]

It seems the E-Roadbike will be next. Guess the KOm on Suikerbossie will be out of reach from now on. Ban them from Strava, it will make flagging rides a nightmare.

 

well, as I understand e-bikes, they offer assistance up to a maximum speed. i think L1e-A offer assistance up to 25kmh... seeing as the strava KOM average speed is >30kmh, i doubt it'll be an issue... 

[Odinson]

well, as I understand e-bikes, they offer assistance up to a maximum speed. i think L1e-A offer assistance up to 25kmh... seeing as the strava KOM average speed is >30kmh, i doubt it'll be an issue... 

 

Get your bike chipped and watch those pesky KOMs tumble. 

 

https://e-bike-tuning.nl/bosch/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA2o_fBRC8ARIsAIOyQ-mtY0sKSsAIlXXT15rmFxehq9S_S8HqjaTEuUK0l5ebvc2iQDg2YwEaArbjEALw_wcB

[Hairy]

A Spaz store in town changes the default Euro setting from 25km to 35km, which is the USA regulated setting. This then still keeps the bike within the manufacturers warranty scope.

 

Now I know from some riders it is very simple to further de regulate the speeds on the bikes and many do increase the assistance speed.

 

well, as I understand e-bikes, they offer assistance up to a maximum speed. i think L1e-A offer assistance up to 25kmh... seeing as the strava KOM average speed is >30kmh, i doubt it'll be an issue... 

[Headshot]

A Spaz store in town changes the default Euro setting from 25km to 35km, which is the USA regulated setting. This then still keeps the bike within the manufacturers warranty scope.

 

Now I know from some riders it is very simple to further de regulate the speeds on the bikes and many do increase the assistance speed.

That is a hairs breadth from being full moto.