Canyon bicycles now available direct to South Africa

[Pure Savage]

Horse....flog....dead...

Top tube... sat...broke... known issue

[shaper]

Top tube... sat...broke... known issue

Hence known issue and flogged to death every time a Canyon bike is mentioned !!

 

But hey, it's the little things on a slow midweek

[Pure Savage]

Hence known issue and flogged to death every time a Canyon bike is mentioned !!

 

But hey, it's the little things on a slow midweek

If I have to hear about how e-bikes are the worst thing every time they are mentioned then this horse can get flogged a little longer.

[Canyon Bicycles SA]

Dear All

 

To clarify a few uncertainties on the above mentioned posts regarding CANYON imports:

• There is no VAT on shipping
• The Import VAT however is a more difficult calculation as all imports into SA is worked out on ATV (Added Tax Value)
• For easy landed cost calculation in SA, we share this with customers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k66SorI-b_77oqS1FBkEQ3VLRRovHWy93NS_Zvmvrlc/edit?usp=sharing
• An SA citizen can make 3 imports per year on your ID number. Whether it is from books to bikes. SARS will stop your 4^th import when your ID number is all maxed out and request an import code from you.
• If the value of your import into SA is more than R50’000 you also need an Import Code.
• If you purchase a Canyon (all coming from Germany), you can gladly use your own Importers Code. If you do not have one, we can easily clear your purchase with our local Import Code. The courier (UPS) will inform us when it is requested from SARS and as soon as they do we always just create the document to clear it anyhow on your behalf, so no struggle for the customer.
• You will make two payments: One to Canyon for the bike, parts, frame, shipping and box. The other to UPS for the Duties and VAT once the bike arrives in SA
• The fluctuating ZAR is a rather unique case for SA and something not normal for the Germans to experience, there is planning being done, although slightly difficult and slow, for a ZAR value on: www.canyon.com/en-za/
• All the bicycle brands importing complete bikes are also eligible to pay the 15% duties and ATV VAT.
• If you import frames and parts, to save that 15% duties, you have other additional costs like warehousing, employees, etc, but you create work in SA.
• If you buy the bike outside of SA, legally the purchase should be declared at the airport and you have to pay the Duties and VAT. If you sneak it past customs, please note, there is always a chance (and these days it happens more regularly) that the SARS officials will stop you and check your bike and request the needed paperwork. Canyon stands strong against this form of activities.
• Shipping, Duties, VAT…  The direct to the consumer bikes from Canyon still comes at a great price point for amazing bikes!

[DieselnDust]

 

Dear All

 

To clarify a few uncertainties on the above mentioned posts regarding CANYON imports:

• There is no VAT on shipping
• The Import VAT however is a more difficult calculation as all imports into SA is worked out on ATV (Added Tax Value)
• For easy landed cost calculation in SA, we share this with customers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k66SorI-b_77oqS1FBkEQ3VLRRovHWy93NS_Zvmvrlc/edit?usp=sharing
• An SA citizen can make 3 imports per year on your ID number. Whether it is from books to bikes. SARS will stop your 4^th import when your ID number is all maxed out and request an import code from you.
• If the value of your import into SA is more than R50’000 you also need an Import Code.
• If you purchase a Canyon (all coming from Germany), you can gladly use your own Importers Code. If you do not have one, we can easily clear your purchase with our local Import Code. The courier (UPS) will inform us when it is requested from SARS and as soon as they do we always just create the document to clear it anyhow on your behalf, so no struggle for the customer.
• You will make two payments: One to Canyon for the bike, parts, frame, shipping and box. The other to UPS for the Duties and VAT once the bike arrives in SA
• The fluctuating ZAR is a rather unique case for SA and something not normal for the Germans to experience, there is planning being done, although slightly difficult and slow, for a ZAR value on: www.canyon.com/en-za/
• All the bicycle brands importing complete bikes are also eligible to pay the 15% duties and ATV VAT.
• If you import frames and parts, to save that 15% duties, you have other additional costs like warehousing, employees, etc, but you create work in SA.
• If you buy the bike outside of SA, legally the purchase should be declared at the airport and you have to pay the Duties and VAT. If you sneak it past customs, please note, there is always a chance (and these days it happens more regularly) that the SARS officials will stop you and check your bike and request the needed paperwork. Canyon stands strong against this form of activities.
• Shipping, Duties, VAT…  The direct to the consumer bikes from Canyon still comes at a great price point for amazing bikes!

 

 

 

Just building on this, Some  pals of mine came over from the UK to race the Tour of Good Hope this year. Whole contingent of them.

Some were asked for proof of ownership of the bikes they brought into the country. they were issued with temporary import licenses or other document to prevent the bikes from attracting duties. Had to declare that it was for own use etc etc. When they left they had to go through a SARS clearance at the CTIA to ensure they were in fact taking the bikes back out as they declared. the guy who arrived a few days later during CTCT influx was spared the pain. (he was riding the Epic). 

So not sure if letting a family bring in a bike and then leave it behind is a very wise move as they may incur some import duties when they leave without the bike. I'm no expert in this area but it appears a risky course of action to take. then what about the warranty after you supertuck...???

[Pure Savage]

Just building on this, Some  pals of mine came over from the UK to race the Tour of Good Hope this year. Whole contingent of them.

Some were asked for proof of ownership of the bikes they brought into the country. they were issued with temporary import licenses or other document to prevent the bikes from attracting duties. Had to declare that it was for own use etc etc. When they left they had to go through a SARS clearance at the CTIA to ensure they were in fact taking the bikes back out as they declared. the guy who arrived a few days later during CTCT influx was spared the pain. (he was riding the Epic). 

So not sure if letting a family bring in a bike and then leave it behind is a very wise move as they may incur some import duties when they leave without the bike. I'm no expert in this area but it appears a risky course of action to take. then what about the warranty after you supertuck...???

Or working on the indoor trainer.

[Dexter-morgan]

 

Dear All

 

To clarify a few uncertainties on the above mentioned posts regarding CANYON imports:

• There is no VAT on shipping
• The Import VAT however is a more difficult calculation as all imports into SA is worked out on ATV (Added Tax Value)
• For easy landed cost calculation in SA, we share this with customers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k66SorI-b_77oqS1FBkEQ3VLRRovHWy93NS_Zvmvrlc/edit?usp=sharing
• An SA citizen can make 3 imports per year on your ID number. Whether it is from books to bikes. SARS will stop your 4^th import when your ID number is all maxed out and request an import code from you.
• If the value of your import into SA is more than R50’000 you also need an Import Code.
• If you purchase a Canyon (all coming from Germany), you can gladly use your own Importers Code. If you do not have one, we can easily clear your purchase with our local Import Code. The courier (UPS) will inform us when it is requested from SARS and as soon as they do we always just create the document to clear it anyhow on your behalf, so no struggle for the customer.
• You will make two payments: One to Canyon for the bike, parts, frame, shipping and box. The other to UPS for the Duties and VAT once the bike arrives in SA
• The fluctuating ZAR is a rather unique case for SA and something not normal for the Germans to experience, there is planning being done, although slightly difficult and slow, for a ZAR value on: www.canyon.com/en-za/
• All the bicycle brands importing complete bikes are also eligible to pay the 15% duties and ATV VAT.
• If you import frames and parts, to save that 15% duties, you have other additional costs like warehousing, employees, etc, but you create work in SA.
• If you buy the bike outside of SA, legally the purchase should be declared at the airport and you have to pay the Duties and VAT. If you sneak it past customs, please note, there is always a chance (and these days it happens more regularly) that the SARS officials will stop you and check your bike and request the needed paperwork. Canyon stands strong against this form of activities.
• Shipping, Duties, VAT…  The direct to the consumer bikes from Canyon still comes at a great price point for amazing bikes!

 

Thanks for all the info but what is the purpose of Canyon SA, if we still have to do all the importing?

[matthieup]

Just building on this, Some  pals of mine came over from the UK to race the Tour of Good Hope this year. Whole contingent of them.

Some were asked for proof of ownership of the bikes they brought into the country. they were issued with temporary import licenses or other document to prevent the bikes from attracting duties. Had to declare that it was for own use etc etc. When they left they had to go through a SARS clearance at the CTIA to ensure they were in fact taking the bikes back out as they declared. the guy who arrived a few days later during CTCT influx was spared the pain. (he was riding the Epic). 

So not sure if letting a family bring in a bike and then leave it behind is a very wise move as they may incur some import duties when they leave without the bike. I'm no expert in this area but it appears a risky course of action to take. then what about the warranty after you supertuck...???

 

Can they not declare it broken? or best stolen

[DieselnDust]

Can they not declare it broken? or best stolen

Don't know but I'm not best qualified to give advice on tax evasion...

[thisismyotherbike]

Thanks for all the info but what is the purpose of Canyon SA, if we still have to do all the importing?

 

To provide some support and let you touch the bikes before ordering.  They are not a distribution center.

[lechatnoir]

Can they not declare it broken? or best stolen

 

they'd probably be asked for a case number if they say it's stolen. While totally believable, it'll be somewhat fraudulent.

[Canyon Bicycles SA]

Thanks for all the info but what is the purpose of Canyon SA, if we still have to do all the importing?

 

Clearing orders that are at customs and needing import code. First contact of customer service is with Canyon Service Center in Germany, then passed to Canyon SA when needed. Going to events to give potential customers the chance to touch and test the bikes. Technical Service when needed. Somebody to talk to. Canyon SA is only 1 person, at least someone that understands Afrikaans

[DieselnDust]

and very willing to assist with any issues as liaison between canyon and owner

[Dexter-morgan]

Clearing orders that are at customs and needing import code. First contact of customer service is with Canyon Service Center in Germany, then passed to Canyon SA when needed. Going to events to give potential customers the chance to touch and test the bikes. Technical Service when needed. Somebody to talk to. Canyon SA is only 1 person, at least someone that understands Afrikaans

So ons kan jou vloek in Afrikaans en jy weet wat ons bedoel, Sies Ek is lelik, seker omdat Ek nooit n Canyon sal kan bekostig nie.

[Pure Savage]

South African's want it all, they want direct sales to cut out the middle man for cost saving but then want a middle man for service issues etc. We gotta make up our minds. 

 

I think its a great business model in this market and it was great to have a chat to the Canyon team as the Knysna Expo and have a first hand look at the grail. Now to pull the trigger No other bike brand was there to chat to, so they seem to be putting themselves out there and approachable, which I have not experienced with other brands. 

[ScottCM]

If one requires spares such as forks of seatpost etc, where would one purchase those as i can't find a link on the website?