Vetseun Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 Boy have we been battling as well. In the middle of an interview. As in we have met and talking, when it came to hours required to work, they simply got up and walked away and said no longer interested. There are loads of jobs available, just a shortage of people willing to work. At another interview when we offered any questions you have for us, the millennial asked us if we could explain why they should work for us. I was dumbfounded!Shocking.
Eddy Gordo Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 damn, what work Slowbee? Can it be done after hours?
Patchelicious Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 This is unfortunately, as someone who works with kids, not the kids fault - if it were, all of them would be the same, with few outliers, but that is not the case. It may be stereotypical to suggest, but I don't think I would be too far wrong if I said that the cause/attributes of the attitude relate to: - private school education (some of the good ones here are private schooled, almost all of the public school ones are- have parents that are well to do, but more importantly have well-to-do, absent parents who are continually striving for more. In some ways, I actually think the rebellion against work hours is a good thing, as work-life balance for us older folk did get out of hand over the years. Like everything though, it has swung too far. - obviously, social media. The fragility of their psyche's is insane. I really feel sorry for them, and to a degree they have been nannied to death by society, AND isolated electronically. - their parents are either useless or soft, gentle people who I guess you could call harmless. Some of the biggest pains in the arse are kids of the most awesome people who would do anything to help you. Just think when we are grandparents age, there will be a generation of post-beatnik, cocaine using, workaholics like in the 80's again. Swings and roundabouts...I believe much of the current ‘issues’ (entitlement, social media generation, easily offenditis, etc) is a sign of the currently level of relative global stability and prosperity. Small things aren’t a problem when there are world wars, famine, invading marauders that you have to worry about. So while it’s a problem, there is a positive take away.
Patchelicious Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 At another interview when we offered any questions you have for us, the millennial asked us if we could explain why they should work for us. I was dumbfounded!And could you answer them? It’s a good question, and one that people often struggle to answer because they don’t have a good answer and they take it personally. If you want the better talent to come work for you rather that the competition around the corner, you need to offer more than them, and this is not usually more money, well that’s the study trends we see with millennials.
Kranswurm Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 Boy have we been battling as well. In the middle of an interview. As in we have met and talking, when it came to hours required to work, they simply got up and walked away and said no longer interested. There are loads of jobs available, just a shortage of people willing to work. At another interview when we offered any questions you have for us, the millennial asked us if we could explain why they should work for us. I was dumbfounded!Not sure why you are dumbfounded.It is a good question and one that I welcome because I have to sell the company to the potential employee
DJR Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 ..............At another interview when we offered any questions you have for us, the millennial asked us if we could explain why they should work for us. I was dumbfounded!I thought that was a good question, if asked in the right way of course, which means without any arrogance. I recently got a very similar question as part of an interview and it gave me the opening to talk about our work ethic, team work and (work) culture. Basically, it also showed that the applicant was interested in who we are and it quickly became clear whether she was going to fit in with our way of doing things or not.
Robbie Stewart Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 I know of a young chap who works on the Amazon helpdesk. He has been doing this for 2 years, which is the duration of his career so far. He wants to leave because he is feeling somewhat unhappy, not seeing any growth potential yada yada yada.He says he is willing to take a pay cut in order to move up.Did I mention he earns R35k?, or that he is getting a R200k profit share payout in October, which if he leaves he will forego? I just don't understand these folks of today
Kranswurm Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 I know of a young chap who works on the Amazon helpdesk. He has been doing this for 2 years, which is the duration of his career so far. He wants to leave because he is feeling somewhat unhappy, not seeing any growth potential yada yada yada. He says he is willing to take a pay cut in order to move up. Did I mention he earns R35k?, or that he is getting a R200k profit share payout in October, which if he leaves he will forego? I just don't understand these folks of today
Robbie Stewart Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 https://youtu.be/hER0Qp6QJNUFood for thought. Although I am not a Millenial, I can take some of what Simon said onboard for sure.
BaGearA Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 I know of a young chap who works on the Amazon helpdesk. He has been doing this for 2 years, which is the duration of his career so far. He wants to leave because he is feeling somewhat unhappy, not seeing any growth potential yada yada yada.He says he is willing to take a pay cut in order to move up.Did I mention he earns R35k?, or that he is getting a R200k profit share payout in October, which if he leaves he will forego? I just don't understand these folks of todaySo it's A bad thing he's chasing job satisfaction instead of money? These damn millenials
Stretch Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 A lot of it has to do with the fact that kids don't generally work anymore when they are younger. Waitering, packing shelves, washing dishes, working behind the counter etc etc.... They only really get into that at varsity and even then, only a few actually do it. It see it with my own daughter now.. She has 3 months now to work and earn some good money.. But she is content with a couple of babysitting jobs a month and that's it. The younger one, on the other hand... Wants to buy a MacBook.. So she's washing dishes at the local hotel whenever she can
Thor Buttox Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 A lot of it has to do with the fact that kids don't generally work anymore when they are younger. Waitering, packing shelves, washing dishes, working behind the counter etc etc.... They only really get into that at varsity and even then, only a few actually do it. It see it with my own daughter now.. She has 3 months now to work and earn some good money.. But she is content with a couple of babysitting jobs a month and that's it. The younger one, on the other hand... Wants to buy a MacBook.. So she's washing dishes at the local hotel whenever she canOver here most of the ones I interact with with part-time jobs. Itvs almost seen as a right of passage.
sias Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 listen to this guy!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1biDxaT0ED4
Thor Buttox Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 I believe much of the current ‘issues’ (entitlement, social media generation, easily offenditis, etc) is a sign of the currently level of relative global stability and prosperity.Small things aren’t a problem when there are world wars, famine, invading marauders that you have to worry about.So while it’s a problem, there is a positive take away.Correct me if I am wrong, but unless I am very much mistaken, you are advocating that Donnie Darko is about to save the world!?
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