Rocket-Boy Posted July 25, 2020 Share Hardened Linux based kernel......can you serve that in digestible chunks?Sure, the SAN's(Storage Area Network) are stupidly expensive devices that provide external storage to servers. They are designed to be fully redundant in that they have two of everything needed to run, if something fails then the other hardware takes over. You may still lose a storage LUN or two but generally it will be fine.Most of them run some version of the Linux operating system. In Linux you can build the kernel which is the core of the operating system from modular components.For a security hardened kernel it would have everything but the bare minimum requirements removed to lower the attack surface. There are also other things like preventing core dumps and randomizing memory write areas to prevent sequential memory dumps etc. I realize that probably made it clear as mud but its a fairly complex to fully explain. Paul Ruinaard, HdB and TheBritishTwit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted July 25, 2020 Share I realize that probably made it clear as mud but its a fairly complex to fully explain.Spoken like a true IT techie ..... and when translated in normal human speak = $$$$. Rocket-Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted July 25, 2020 Share I like it when you speak foreign ... Rocket-Boy and TheBritishTwit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanievb Posted July 25, 2020 Share Spoken like a true IT techie ..... and when translated in normal human speak = $$$$.If you ever have the pleasure of dealing with investment bankers and insurance actuaries, you realise that IT speak is easy (and cheap) to understand Harryn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted July 25, 2020 Share If you ever have the pleasure of dealing with investment bankers and insurance actuaries, you realise that IT speak is easy (and cheap) to understandA bit like lawyers and medical folk. Came to the conclusion long ago that any profession which uses an excess amount of Latin tends to be expensive and untrustworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanievb Posted July 25, 2020 Share A bit like lawyers and medical folk. Came to the conclusion long ago that any profession which uses an excess amount of Latin tends to be expensive and untrustworthy.I'm a legal professional and I hate it when people use "big words" to explain stuff. Most of them are trying to compensate for something..... Rocket-Boy and Prince Albert Cycles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathrix Posted July 25, 2020 Share I love sitting in meetings watching there facial expressions trying to explain to management in less than an hour something technical that took me 20 years to learn. Always told our sales manager that he sells the dreams and we techies deal with the nightmares. Harryn and fanievb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ruinaard Posted July 25, 2020 Share Sure, the SAN's(Storage Area Network) are stupidly expensive devices that provide external storage to servers. They are designed to be fully redundant in that they have two of everything needed to run, if something fails then the other hardware takes over. You may still lose a storage LUN or two but generally it will be fine.Most of them run some version of the Linux operating system. In Linux you can build the kernel which is the core of the operating system from modular components.For a security hardened kernel it would have everything but the bare minimum requirements removed to lower the attack surface. There are also other things like preventing core dumps and randomizing memory write areas to prevent sequential memory dumps etc. I realize that probably made it clear as mud but its a fairly complex to fully explain.SAN is so last year. Go HCI with software defined. All the webscale properties can’t be wrong. No more masking LUNS and the drudge of 3 tier and its associated patching nightmares. If Garmin isn’t back soon they are in big trouble.... Rocket-Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted July 25, 2020 Share Ransom USD10 million! https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2020/07/25/will-garmin-pay-10m-ransom-to-end-two-day-outage/amp/ IceCreamMan and WrightJnr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted July 25, 2020 Share Spotted on social media "What if Garmin are busy upgrading their servers so that they can track us all via 5G and a Corona virus vaccine, and then sell the big data to Bill Gates and Ironman." - @ChrisHitchcock fanievb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted July 25, 2020 Share I'm a legal professional and I hate it when people use "big words" to explain stuff. Most of them are trying to compensate for something.....I have issues with that too, its just not always necessary.The IT industry is filled with acronyms which often mean different things in different contexts. Enterprise level IT meetings are always a mess to any non-technical people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted July 25, 2020 Share SAN is so last year. Go HCI with software defined. All the webscale properties can’t be wrong. No more masking LUNS and the drudge of 3 tier and its associated patching nightmares. If Garmin isn’t back soon they are in big trouble....Im often pretty surprised by how long it takes the older big players to turn around and embrace newer tech that is well proven.I do a fair bit of contract work for Airbnb and their systems are completely different to a lot of older and often larger companies. Even small things like using Software Defined Networking are almost non-existent in the "In Cisco we trust" big players where as newer and smaller companies are adopting the newer tech and leveraging automation a whole lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted July 25, 2020 Share https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2020/07/25/will-garmin-pay-10m-ransom-to-end-two-day-outage/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted July 25, 2020 Share https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2020/07/25/will-garmin-pay-10m-ransom-to-end-two-day-outage/$10m......will they pay??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted July 25, 2020 Share $10m......will they pay???At this rate the political and commercial damage done so far may have long overshadowed that ransom fee. This is a apocalyptic level business damage. The resale value of garmin devices is going to tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmoun10goat Posted July 25, 2020 Share At this rate the political and commercial damage done so far may have long overshadowed that ransom fee. This is a apocalyptic level business damage. The resale value of garmin devices is going to tank. As cyclists/runners/swimmers, our devices all still work, we just cant upload to GC. We can load up to any other service provider, as all garmin sports devices are usb read compatible. Just take your fit file and upload. The price of a second hand fenix 5 dropping from 5k, to 4k or 3k is hardly tanking. Also, once Garmin has restored order, where will you rather let you data reside - with Garmin who for sure will be implementing significant security enhancements learnt from this experience, or Suunto/Polar that has yet to learn these lessons and are probably fortunate to not have been hacked as opposed to better prepared than Garmin. For most of us, the data resides in so many places, its almost irrelevant how Garmin handles it. Think how many people use strava, training peaks, todays plan, and a host of other plug ins for further analysis. The only way to secure your data is to not upload it to any web based provider. Twitter got hacked two weeks ago - did the price of smart phones crash. People may just have stayed off Twitter for a few days, but after that things are mostly back to normal ChrisF, Prince Albert Cycles, Frosty and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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