The deteriorating classifieds culture

[ChrisF]

18 minutes ago, Mook said:

I guess it is his property now and he can sell for whatever makes him tick.

My story ........

I blessed somebody with a fully functional and licenced scooter. Two weeks later he sells it for a handsome price. Needless to say - I was ticked as hell.

Fact is, once you are not the owner any longer, the new owner can do with the item as they please.

As they say in the movies .....

 If you want loyalty, get a dog

 

 

A buddy wanted to get into cycling ... bought a 2nd hand HT .... bit of a lemon ....

 

I used a LOT of my parts to rebuild the bike.  6 weeks later he sells the bike and buys a FS ....

 

As you say ... his bike to do with as he pleases .....

 

 

Still, I am less likely to donate my good parts for the next help-a-buddy-project ......

[karma]

13 minutes ago, Barry said:

You sold them at R2500? your ratings would suggest the buyer is now selling at R7500. 

R2750 yes.

 

[Rowl]

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[ACE Cycles]

On 7/7/2024 at 11:31 AM, cadenceblur said:

A bit of a rant about the behavior of some so called hubbers. 
Happens far too often that people cannot be bothered to respond to messages despite being online. 
Selling and buying on the platform is becoming an all  the more tedious affair.

People ask questions or for more pics only to basically ignore your replies? 
Or the classic, advertise something but don’t respond to valid queries. 
How do we address this? I’ve actually rated them accordingly in the past only to receive a snotty response thereafter. 

My experience is that serious buyers will call or send a whatsapp. The ones that dont even bother with manners and drop a single question message on bikehub, I dont even respond

[ACE Cycles]

On 7/7/2024 at 1:09 PM, cadenceblur said:

I guess horses for for courses , but it just grates me sometimes - BikeHub becoming like FB marketplace and Gumtree and as a community we need to try and preserve the ethics. 

Facebook marketplace is way better, at least on Facebook people dont hide behind an alias

[ACE Cycles]

On 7/7/2024 at 5:12 PM, ChrisF said:

 

And many sellers have zero interest in the forum side

Truth, talking **** all day dont pay the bills

Classified and forums could be 2 different websites 

[NC_lurker]

16 hours ago, ACE Cycles said:

My experience is that serious buyers will call or send a whatsapp. The ones that dont even bother with manners and drop a single question message on bikehub, I dont even respond

If you don't interact with a seller via a message on the platform then you can't rate them afterwards. 

But I agreed 100% that the interaction should be cordial including signing off with your actual name.

[MORNE]

On 2/15/2025 at 7:39 PM, ACE Cycles said:

Truth, talking **** all day dont pay the bills

Classified and forums could be 2 different websites 

Yes, yes…‘mr hustler’

but…i and many others have also sold things in the forums on more than one occasion. Through pure discussion and wanting to help out with a part that might not be listed in classifieds. I personally did just the other day.  

A forum discussion starts, someone maybe needs something they cant find..I know i have one in my parts stash somewhere, and offer it for sale to help out. That deal doesn't even go through classifieds. Just saying.

Also, i’d just like to point out that here you are joining in on the k@kpraating in the forums - expressing your opinion 😁. 

Welcome to the community!

[BuffsVintageBikes]

On 2/15/2025 at 11:55 AM, karma said:

Before naming and shaming, what's your take on this scenario:

Buyer buys wheelset from me, after negotiating price down significantly.

Less than 3 months later, reselling wheels, just added new cassette, for -R5k more, and twisting the truth about mileage on tyres a bit.

The Casette is not R5k BTW.

 

This is a tricky one:

Why were you willing to negotiate significantly? Do he spin you a long story about needing a sponsor/being broke/desperate etc. You then felt sorry for him and dropped your price dramatically because you're a good bloke.

Were you happy with the price you got at the time? If not, why?

 

Edited February 17, 2025 by BuffsVintageBikes

[Hairy]

On 2/1/2025 at 6:35 PM, love2fly said:

I love it when I get lowballed...I'll pay you Rx......CASH.....like I was going to accept instalments, salt, goats cattle....FFS!

A reseller making that offer in a short and curt message?

[karma]

3 minutes ago, BuffsVintageBikes said:

This is a tricky one:

Why were you will to negotiate significantly? Do he spin you a long story about needing a sponsor/being broke/desperate etc. You then felt sorry for him and dropped your price dramatically because you're a good bloke.

Were you happy with the price you got at the time? If not, why?

 

Didn't really haggle, my gripe is more with the idea of making such a profit off each other here. Makes one never want to even negotiate a cent from your price with the idea of paying it forward. 

I'd be ashamed if I didn't pay full asking price but then proceed to make a big profit, but that's just me, anyway, school fees I guess.

 

[Hairy]

On 2/15/2025 at 11:55 AM, karma said:

Before naming and shaming, what's your take on this scenario:

Buyer buys wheelset from me, after negotiating price down significantly.

Less than 3 months later, reselling wheels, just added new cassette, for -R5k more, and twisting the truth about mileage on tyres a bit.

The Casette is not R5k BTW.

 

Selling trying to make a few rand is not really an issue, selling and knowingly lying about the product being sold is not cool.

[BuffsVintageBikes]

Yeah, I really don't see the issue here. This is how fair trade works.
If you did your due diligence and were happy with the price you got at the time then it sounds like you're just sour that you didn't sell them for more.
Bear in mind that he might be smoking his socks and he won't get the price he's now asking for now anyway.

[love2fly]

8 hours ago, Hairy said:

A reseller making that offer in a short and curt message?

Not well received/ignored

[ChrisF]

10 hours ago, MORNE said:

Yes, yes…‘mr hustler’

but…i and many others have also sold things in the forums on more than one occasion. Through pure discussion and wanting to help out with a part that might not be listed in classifieds. I personally did just the other day.  

A forum discussion starts, someone maybe needs something they cant find..I know i have one in my parts stash somewhere, and offer it for sale to help out. That deal doesn't even go through classifieds. Just saying.

Also, i’d just like to point out that here you are joining in on the k@kpraating in the forums - expressing your opinion 😁. 

Welcome to the community!

 

Couple of very good dealers and specialists that spend a few minutes a week to provide excellent value.

 

It does not have to take hours out of a busy schedule.

[RobynE 🚵‍♀️]

Willing seller, willing buyer and all that. Happens with everything in life.
 

If I know I have something and it’s worth x, I stick to my guns. If I feel I’m pushing the envelope a bit, I’ll allow negotiation. What they do with it afterwards is their business. 
 

If they lie about it afterwards - tough one. But, not my circus anymore.

 

I am selling my daughter’s bike (2022 TR Calypso Junior) and have been lowballed extensively because the bike is “only worth” (retail less depreciation). Except I know that it’s running really good upgraded components that are light years away from stock form (Rockshox SiD WC fork, GX 1x10, DT Swiss wheels and hubs etc), and at 2k less than current new retail on the same bike in stock form, plus all original parts included, I’m sticking to my guns. The right buyer will come along.