The ARGUS 2025 Thread (AKA CTCT)

[Pure Savage]

2 hours ago, Patchelicious said:

Oh I'm around, great to see that 10 years on you are still vying for attention. Keep it up.

Dankie Oom! I see you still grumpy grumps.

Edited Thursday at 01:23 PM by Pure Savage

[ChrisF]

1 hour ago, Mamil said:

What I want to know is where were all these low seeded elites and unrestricted ebikes and other ne'er-do-wells when I needed a tow past Cape Point to Misty cliffs? - even a tandem would have been lekker.

Nothing, ... nada .... just me and skinny 1B rider who couldn't do a turn and wouldn't have offered much of a draft he had been able to.

 

Nee magtig man .... I even had a big PINK flag waving at the back for you to hold onto  .... not my fault you could not hold on ....

 

[ChrisF]

1 hour ago, The Ouzo said:

that like me between fish hoek and simons town. Nobody in site front or rear, I had to remind myself I was doing "The August" because there was no sign that it was a race day.

I'm used to starting further back, where you are either passing someone, or someone is passing you or both.

 

THAT is the problem when seeding works .... you are too fast for the riders at the back to catch you, and if the elastic snaps it is one lonely race ....

 

Watching the tandem video it was interesting to see the very large groups on Smitswinkel, Chappies and Suikerbossie .... and the lines thinning out quickly inbetween ...

[NGM]

1 hour ago, mikkelz said:

I saw Linus en-route (same start group). Had 34 (or 35, I can't remember) previously completed tours (it was on his race number). Insane!

Most (and most consecutive) sub-3's I believe.

[Jono]

1 minute ago, NGM said:

Most (and most consecutive) sub-3's I believe.

How many does he have?

[andydude]

2 hours ago, mikkelz said:

I saw Linus en-route (same start group). Had 34 (or 35, I can't remember) previously completed tours (it was on his race number). Insane!

And with something like 30 or 31 sub 3 hours!

Edit: 31 sub 3 tours for oom Biltong!

And all three Onselen generations got sub 3 this year. Well done to them!

Edited Thursday at 01:53 PM by andydude

[NGM]

2 minutes ago, Jono said:

How many does he have?

29 more than me.

So 29 then.

[Pure Savage]

Still think that the short route should be on Saturday from Town to Hout bay circle and back. All those that travel in could have a nice safe leg loosener, the eBike gang can do a Sub 1 hour, families can ride together, its actually a nice route, both sides of sugar bush is a great climb. Those in Llandudno can just use their helicopters on Saturday and Sunday. Keep all the cyclists away from cars for the weekend. Can even boost the money raised for charity. 

[Skubarra]

5 minutes ago, Pure Savage said:

Still think that the short route should be on Saturday from Town to Hout bay circle and back. All those that travel in could have a nice safe leg loosener, the eBike gang can do a Sub 1 hour, families can ride together, its actually a nice route, both sides of sugar bush is a great climb. Those in Llandudno can just use their helicopters on Saturday and Sunday. Keep all the cyclists away from cars for the weekend. Can even boost the money raised for charity. 

I think that was the plan from the organisers initially? But City & Province didn't come to the party, logistically too big an ask to shut down the city traffic 2 days in a row + having half the province ambulances occupied in the city for 2 days etc.

[Me rida my bicycle]

Why is there so much hate is a little strong word, dislike towards the top placing women.

I'm not in the top/fast bunches so just trying to understand. If there's a big group and she is able to hang on, to me that's well done.

I know unless I'm holding on to a vehicle I'm not going to be able to stay at that speed. 

I get they don't work in front but they are so small it's not like they are going to be blocking much wind anyway. 

[Skubarra]

29 minutes ago, Me rida my bicycle said:

Why is there so much hate is a little strong word, dislike towards the top placing women.

I'm not in the top/fast bunches so just trying to understand. If there's a big group and she is able to hang on, to me that's well done.

I know unless I'm holding on to a vehicle I'm not going to be able to stay at that speed. 

I get they don't work in front but they are so small it's not like they are going to be blocking much wind anyway. 

I think the "hate" is more directed towards the lady in 1D who had dedicated help in getting to the fastest time.

That said, there are no prizes for being the fastest lady on the long route, only bragging rights. The actual prizes go to the ladies in the 78km race, so I have no issue with someone getting helped, (as long as there are no e-bikes involved 🙃)

[ChrisF]

8 minutes ago, Skubarra said:

I think the "hate" is more directed towards the lady in 1D who had dedicated help in getting to the fastest time.

That said, there are no prizes for being the fastest lady on the long route, only bragging rights. The actual prizes go to the ladies in the 78km race, so I have no issue with someone getting helped, (as long as there are no e-bikes involved 🙃)

 

You and @Mamil need to get your stories straight .... 😋

[HdB]

34 minutes ago, Me rida my bicycle said:

Why is there so much hate is a little strong word, dislike towards the top placing women.

I'm not in the top/fast bunches so just trying to understand. If there's a big group and she is able to hang on, to me that's well done.

I know unless I'm holding on to a vehicle I'm not going to be able to stay at that speed. 

I get they don't work in front but they are so small it's not like they are going to be blocking much wind anyway. 

I could be remembering wrong, but in the past when the elite ladies did the full distance there would be ladies riding in the fast open bunches getting faster times, which led to some questions about who was the rightful winner of the ladies.

No issues with those that keep up with the fast groups and get a good time, whether they work or not. As long as there aren't e-bikes and/or physical pushing/towing to get that time.

(the closest I got to the front of @ was being able to actually see that there was a separate race going on there, riders attacking off the front etc. I would have needed to "attack" just to get to the front, nevermind actually contributing to the pace).

[Bro Derek]

So It's not ok for a lady to get a sub 3 with the help of her male friends but it's more than ok to drop back a few groups and help your other male mates get a faster time and better seeding?

The cross thread contradictions on this site are baffling

 

[Prince Albert Cycles]

4 hours ago, mikkelz said:

I saw Linus en-route (same start group). Had 34 (or 35, I can't remember) previously completed tours (it was on his race number). Insane!

And all sub 3’s except for 1 I think

[babse]

36 minutes ago, Skubarra said:

I think the "hate" is more directed towards the lady in 1D who had dedicated help in getting to the fastest time.

That said, there are no prizes for being the fastest lady on the long route, only bragging rights. The actual prizes go to the ladies in the 78km race, so I have no issue with someone getting helped, (as long as there are no e-bikes involved 🙃)

Anywhere, ever! 

 

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