2 cyclists from Lenasia knocked down by a drunk driver on R82 Walkerville. Both cyclists declared dead.

[Dexter-morgan]

19 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

On the subject of a few pints after sport. 
played my first ever padel game the other day ( I’m ashamed to admit it). 
before the game was even up, a waiter from the club house approached and was pushing beers and tequilas. Encouraging us with specials. 
the group I was with, even though they are big drinkers, were fortunately not enticed, but it did not stop the waiter for continuing to try. 
granted his job is to push the stuff and he’ll get a bigger tip, but that it was socially acceptable to do so is a problem. 

In other countries they guys would be drinking BUT they would go by Uber or taxi.

[babse]

20 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

On the subject of a few pints after sport. 
played my first ever padel game the other day ( I’m ashamed to admit it). 
before the game was even up, a waiter from the club house approached and was pushing beers and tequilas. Encouraging us with specials. 
the group I was with, even though they are big drinkers, were fortunately not enticed, but it did not stop the waiter for continuing to try. 
granted his job is to push the stuff and he’ll get a bigger tip, but that it was socially acceptable to do so is a problem. 

we all make mistakes...

[Eugene Oppelt]

“Never forget that justice is what love looks like in public.”
-Cornel West

[Dexter-morgan]

[Dexter-morgan]

6 years alter and only a R40k fine or 2 years.

[IceCreamMan]

I don’t profess to have a solution but I have seen this scenario played out numerous times on the hub. Everyone moans and everyone laments. But very little lobbying ( none) is done because that takes work and effort. 
 

if you seriously want to prevent future incidences , get out there and lobby politicians, cycling organisations, target bike shops ,legal system, schools etc etc. pissing vinegar and acid on the hub ain’t going to fix a damn thing. 

Edited February 6 by IceCreamMan

[ChrisF]

13 minutes ago, IceCreamMan said:

I don’t profess to have a solution but I have seen this scenario played out numerous times on the hub. Everyone moans and everyone laments. But very little lobbying ( none) is done because that takes work and effort. 
 

if you seriously want to prevent future incidences , get out there and lobby politicians, cycling organisations, target bike shops ,legal system, schools etc etc. pissing vinegar and acid on the hub ain’t going to fix a damn thing. 

 

Real question - HOW ?

 

1. The Premiere and the Mayor ... always ready for a photo opp .... always ready to lobby for votes ..... as self proclaimed cyclists, with all the connections .... WHAT have they achieved to improve cycling safety ?

 

2.  CSA ... I am a paid member for a few years already .... they are SILENT ....

 

3. PPA .... not sure what it is they actually do .... I hear more about their cycling events than their efforts to improve cycling safety .... granted, they do regularly post on FB..... informing us to avoid hotspots .... now if they spent as much energy into getting Cloetesville R44 and the Paardenisland sections properly policed .....  okay okay, at least they try something.

 

 

Thus my question ... if those in power and the official organisations are not getting anything done .... what can individuals do ?  

[DieselnDust]

3 hours ago, The Ouzo said:

On the subject of a few pints after sport. 
played my first ever padel game the other day ( I’m ashamed to admit it). 
before the game was even up, a waiter from the club house approached and was pushing beers and tequilas. Encouraging us with specials. 
the group I was with, even though they are big drinkers, were fortunately not enticed, but it did not stop the waiter for continuing to try. 
granted his job is to push the stuff and he’ll get a bigger tip, but that it was socially acceptable to do so is a problem. 

He’s doing his job. The patrons have the choice , drink or drive but not both 

we’re a cake and eat all of it society

[DieselnDust]

3 hours ago, Dexter-morgan said:

In other countries they guys would be drinking BUT they would go by Uber or taxi.

Or walk or bike. If too inebriated to function for either of those then recovering in the local jail cell was often remedy 

Edited February 6 by DieselnDust

[SwissVan]

59 minutes ago, ChrisF said:

 

Real question - HOW ?

 

1. The Premiere and the Mayor ... always ready for a photo opp .... always ready to lobby for votes ..... as self proclaimed cyclists, with all the connections .... WHAT have they achieved to improve cycling safety ?

 

2.  CSA ... I am a paid member for a few years already .... they are SILENT ....

 

3. PPA .... not sure what it is they actually do .... I hear more about their cycling events than their efforts to improve cycling safety .... granted, they do regularly post on FB..... informing us to avoid hotspots .... now if they spent as much energy into getting Cloetesville R44 and the Paardenisland sections properly policed .....  okay okay, at least they try something.

 

 

Thus my question ... if those in power and the official organisations are not getting anything done .... what can individuals do ?  

Bring back the death sentence, been saying it since 19voetsek. 
 

Eye for eye…stone the b a s t i d s, kill them dead

Maybe the cycling public could start a fund to put a contract on these killers once they are in jail….

Can you imagine 

[Anver Ayob]

Terrible news. This incident has affected me mentally as well. I rode this morning for the first time in fear. Every vehicle coming past made me nervous....

May the Almighty protect all the cyclists on the road from any calamity like this.

[DieselnDust]

7 hours ago, Anver Ayob said:

Terrible news. This incident has affected me mentally as well. I rode this morning for the first time in fear. Every vehicle coming past made me nervous....

May the Almighty protect all the cyclists on the road from any calamity like this.

I completely understand how you feel.stay strong 

[Sandro]

On 2/6/2026 at 12:19 PM, Dexter-morgan said:

This is jsut an insult and reminds me of the saying where a crime punishable by a fine just means it's legal for a price.

[DieselnDust]

On 2/6/2026 at 1:14 PM, ChrisF said:

 

Real question - HOW ?

 

1. The Premiere and the Mayor ... always ready for a photo opp .... always ready to lobby for votes ..... as self proclaimed cyclists, with all the connections .... WHAT have they achieved to improve cycling safety ?

 

2.  CSA ... I am a paid member for a few years already .... they are SILENT ....

 

3. PPA .... not sure what it is they actually do .... I hear more about their cycling events than their efforts to improve cycling safety .... granted, they do regularly post on FB..... informing us to avoid hotspots .... now if they spent as much energy into getting Cloetesville R44 and the Paardenisland sections properly policed .....  okay okay, at least they try something.

 

 

Thus my question ... if those in power and the official organisations are not getting anything done .... what can individuals do ?  

The stars own the narrative. They hide behind the weak achievement of the 1m bylaw that no motorist knows exists because it is only communicated to cyclists. Why not motorists? The PaPA says it’s because their staff and volunteers are abused by motorists when they hand the pamphlets to them.

there has never been a tv tutorial on this rule. Too expensive says PPA while at sitting on millions in the bank

ya well no ya

Edited February 7 by DieselnDust

[ChrisF]

4 minutes ago, DieselnDust said:

The stars own the narrative. They hide behind the weak achievement of the 1m bylaw that no protist knows exists because it is only communicated to cyclists. Why not motorists? The PaPA says it’s because their staff and volunteers are abused by motorists when they hand the pamphlets to them.

there has never been a tv tutorial on this rule. Too expensive says PPA while at sitting on millions in the bank

ya well no ya

 

now imagine a world where a mayor and premier could be bothered to use their many platforms to promote such critical life safety rules.

 

heck, imagine a world with a national cycling assocoation ... with all the communication channels available to official national associations ....

 

Heaven forbid, radical thought .... what about a minister for sport .... somebody that could be bothered to address the senseless deaths of athletes .....

 

sorry, maybe I expect too much .....

[DieselnDust]

37 minutes ago, ChrisF said:

 

now imagine a world where a mayor and premier could be bothered to use their many platforms to promote such critical life safety rules.

 

heck, imagine a world with a national cycling assocoation ... with all the communication channels available to official national associations ....

 

Heaven forbid, radical thought .... what about a minister for sport .... somebody that could be bothered to address the senseless deaths of athletes .....

 

sorry, maybe I expect too much .....

Imagine….