Mojoman Posted February 12, 2019 Share The Unions won't allow it to happen.They also won't allow retrenchments.yep...unions just mess everything up....time Cyril grew a pair and boots out all the unemployable at Eskom before it's too late....if it's not already....we can't be held to ransom by people who have no clue about anything. pista and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathrix Posted February 12, 2019 Share Well said Capricorn, mitsu, Steven Knoetze (sk27) and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted February 12, 2019 Share SA needs cheap and reliable electricity, lots of it, to allow for industrialization. Without that our manufacturing sector cannot expand and create jobs. Simple as that. Escom cannot supply that because of stupid decisions taken between 10 and 20 years ago. A new approach is needed. But what?the past 10 to 20 years WAS the new approach. It was new in that it almost entirely eschewed basic business practices for the sake of political expediency and personal profits. Case in point: since early 1990s IIRC, Eskom knew we'd run out of generating capacity relative to national growth forecast, by around 2010. We got there a bit earlier in 2008. What was done prior to that? sweetfokkol. Ever since, Eskom's installed capacity has been forced to play rope-a-dope with actual demand, eventually sinking to the level of DSM (demand side management), which in my view, was the moment it became clear Eskom entered the utility death spiral: higher tariffs, but reduced consumption base. fantastic business model! The 'old' way of premising new generation capacity on national growth outlook is still a sound basis, as it is in turn the basis for determining future earnings for the purposes of obtaining credit.What should be new, is what form that generating capacity will be, and I'm all for renewables supported by nuclear and residual coal. Edited February 12, 2019 by Capricorn DJR, Odinson and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted February 12, 2019 Share yep...unions just mess everything up....time Cyril grew a pair and boots out all the unemployable at Eskom before it's too late....if it's not already....we can't be held to ransom by people who have no clue about anything. Maybe after the elections in May but for now he is still kissing too many peoples a$$e$ to keep the presidency.......... BTW, my comment on business rescue was to have the utility run more as a business for accountability.They should sell SAA too, but that's a whole differ topic altogether...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Posted February 12, 2019 Share Time for candle light dinners and braai time thenThe Mrs and I did that in December. I braai'd when needed to, and we had candle light dinners when the power was out at dinner time. It was quite lekker. The prices of some generators though (in case the load shedding situation gets worse), are interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Been pricing some ups systems to power the fridge and the fishtank. Lets just say, i can buy lots of fish for a few thousand rands. Probably should look at cost for a decent suitable pure sine invertor.My lights are pretty much sorted. Just been dragging my feet regarding a solar panel to charge the batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted February 12, 2019 Share We were off for 6hrs yesterday and 5hrs today.. I am not amused. Steven Knoetze (sk27) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_ Posted February 12, 2019 Share We were off for 6hrs yesterday and 5hrs today.. I am not amused. Pay your rates! Pay your taxes! Oh wait, we do... SwissVan, Capricorn and Steven Knoetze (sk27) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted February 12, 2019 Share Pay your rates! Pay your taxes! Oh wait, we do...And then some..it just makes me moerig. Capricorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted February 12, 2019 Share ..............it just makes me moerig.I'm part of your Moerig Club Gen and Allrounder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Well, no - that's the point. They can't, yet they do. To the top brass, at least. Yeah, top tier at least and alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pista Posted February 12, 2019 Share SwissVan and nathrix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted February 12, 2019 Share We were off for 6hrs yesterday and 5hrs today.. I am not amused.Would it be wrong to ask how you get turned back on ? I cant find the hat, coat or keys ... its all dark. Wannabe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tothehills Posted February 13, 2019 Share What fish do you have?I'm also looking for a UPS system Been pricing some ups systems to power the fridge and the fishtank. Lets just say, i can buy lots of fish for a few thousand rands. Probably should look at cost for a decent suitable pure sine invertor.My lights are pretty much sorted. Just been dragging my feet regarding a solar panel to charge the batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazambaan Posted February 13, 2019 Share the past 10 to 20 years WAS the new approach. It was new in that it almost entirely eschewed basic business practices for the sake of political expediency and personal profits. Case in point: since early 1990s IIRC, Eskom knew we'd run out of generating capacity relative to national growth forecast, by around 2010. We got there a bit earlier in 2008. What was done prior to that? sweetfokkol. Ever since, Eskom's installed capacity has been forced to play rope-a-dope with actual demand, eventually sinking to the level of DSM (demand side management), which in my view, was the moment it became clear Eskom entered the utility death spiral: higher tariffs, but reduced consumption base. fantastic business model! The 'old' way of premising new generation capacity on national growth outlook is still a sound basis, as it is in turn the basis for determining future earnings for the purposes of obtaining credit.What should be new, is what form that generating capacity will be, and I'm all for renewables supported by nuclear and residual coal. oh agreed but do you (and some other Cape clown) remember slagging me off when I said Eskom was useless (to be polite)? I think you said they had lots of great engineers and good people. Where are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted February 13, 2019 Share What fish do you have?I'm also looking for a UPS system generally the UPS's ones gets are meant for short runs, like 10-15 mins. The critical thing with Lead Acid batteries is that you really don't want to discharge them too deeply too often. So an Inverter with external batteries is a better idea for standby power - so you can add more if needed. You start off by calculating ur load and work out the size batteries you need from the run time factoring in that you don't want to discharge more that 50% of the stored energy. Help.Me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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