News bot Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 In the interest of public safety, as well as for the protection of the environmental integrity of the Silvermine and Tokai sections of Table Mountain National Park (TMNP), park management decided that these two areas will remain closed to the public until further notice. Click here to view the article Gunu 1
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Hey guys, I would like to use this thread as a dedicated update service on the matter of access to Tokai and Silvermine areas after they have been ravaged by the fire. As the opening post, I have some bad news. Taken from Sanparks FB page recently. Please excuse the screen grab, I'm on my phone and can't copy the whole text...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Obviously this is disappointing, and at the moment we aren't allowed in to assess the damage to the trails and prepare a plan of action. However - we are currently preparing our Project Charter, which encompasses our vision for Tokai as a whole and this should be presented to Parks relatively soon. We will also continue to attempt to gain access so that the damage can be assessed, and future plans ironed out However - for the moment, we ask that you respect the closure and not try to circumvent the restrictions that they have placed for your safety. It sucks balls, I know - but we need to look at the bigger picture and at the moment that means stepping back to prepare for when we are allowed back in. We have our work cut out for us, that's for sure...
DJR Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Come ride on the front of Table Mountain. It is only 9 km from Tokai. Not so much single track, but the views are better and the climbs are more than enough for the tough guys. Beattbox, Headshot, CleatsnCleavage and 1 other 4
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 6 to 24 months... any chance of it being 6 months?Probably tending towards 24 due to the way the fire has affected the root structures in the areas that were still covered in pine... As I said though, I'll update as often as I can so that you guys can remain abreast of any changes In the status quo. I'm also gutted - Tokai is my local. Up until a year ago I'd only ever ridden tokai since I've been in the Cape. And I've just renewed my wildcard.
lechatnoir Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Ok I have no problem with this. I also love Tokai. However where do I get a refund on my wild card! I was happy to assist with the fire when it was burning but TMNP did not build or upkeep those trails. I would rather get a refund on my wild card and give that money to the guys who are going to rebuild the trails. You have more chance of walking on the moon
marko35s Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 You have more chance of walking on the moonSo that will be twelve people with refunds then. Pappa Bear, dirtypot, Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and 3 others 6
Hellwarp Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Obviously this is disappointing, and at the moment we aren't allowed in to assess the damage to the trails and prepare a plan of action. However - we are currently preparing our Project Charter, which encompasses our vision for Tokai as a whole and this should be presented to Parks relatively soon. We will also continue to attempt to gain access so that the damage can be assessed, and future plans ironed out However - for the moment, we ask that you respect the closure and not try to circumvent the restrictions that they have placed for your safety. It sucks balls, I know - but we need to look at the bigger picture and at the moment that means stepping back to prepare for when we are allowed back in. We have our work cut out for us, that's for sure... Does the "Project Charter" include the formation of an "interested and affected party" grouping of various entities to help via community service? The thinking being, the more hands available on a volunteer basis to assist with alien removal, runoff control, rehabilitation, trail construction, admin work etc etc. could go a long way to speeding up recovery and access and solidify relations between mountain users and the powers that be.We know that labour and finances are stretched for said powers that be to get the job done. Edited March 12, 2015 by Hellwarp DJR 1
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Does the "Project Charter" include the formation of an "interested and affected party" grouping of various entities to help via community service? The thinking being, the more hands available on a volunteer basis to assist with alien removal, runoff control, rehabilitation, trail construction, admin work etc etc. could go a long way to speeding up recovery and access and solidify relations between mountain users and the powers that be.We know that labour and finances are stretched for said powers that be to get the job done.I think it's best for Deon to answer this, as he is the one who has been working on it over the past few weeks. Suffice to say that it touches on some of them, but specifically to the needs of MTB As such it may go into things like alien clearing, but not in specifics as it isn't up to the tokai mtb team to control alien growth and so on...
Capricorn Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 This one's for Deon: i'm curious: why so long? I'm thinking this whole mother nature sensitivity thing is being overblown: there've been fires before, there will be more fires after this. Yet the trees and the plants survive, without all this fawning over it by humans. If after the first proper day of rain the fires are not extinguished, i'll be very surprised. The few that do remain is extremely low risk items that can be directly addressed. more so, how many of that is within existing trails? So if we substract any emotional projection from the situation, why is it too hard to start clearing trails and fixing what needs fixing to make it ridable again within a month or two? The vast majority of trail users will not go on a major ground disturbing off-piste excursion, and what they do if they did, wont have such an effect on the terrain that mother nature cannot take it in her stride. All that logging would have done way more damage than any cyclist, yet the powers that be are content to allow the smoke and oil of the operation knowing full well it wont affect the flora that much. Yet now, its suddenly hypersensitive to a few trail users on existing trails where there wasn't flora to begin with. Besides, I think it would be fantastic to be part of the trail recovery now, and for ppl to continue riding and walking while the lay of the land is at its starkest, so the appreciation for what we have can grow along with the flora as the situation restores ITSELF. Joe Massapuss, dirtypot, SLINX and 4 others 7
Eddy Gordo Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 I have to agree with capricorn.While the trails are still there a damage assessment must be done. Trail use is and always has been restricted to the trails. No one ever venture into the plantations. This is the areas which were seriously affected. It would be nice to be able to ride a trail and see the development of plants over time. Something needs to be proposed whereby some area can still be used. From the pics I saw the trails still look intact apart from where there were wooden features. Joe Massapuss, Capricorn, Oufy MTB (Roadie) and 2 others 5
(Deon) Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Let's be honest here, what damage would the trails have really sustained? Apart from the roots in the trail being burnt, I am hinging my bets on minimal direct damage. What I do however understand from the info is that Table Mountain National Park are not looking at the trails in isolation of the rest of the reserve. It appears to be a holistic approach where an ecosystem is affected and needs recovery. Eddy.. the area is sensitive and a lot of attention will be focussed on the recovery, it seems Table Mountain National Park and many other stakeholders are not willing to risk opening the area to the public, not just cyclists; horses, walkers etc.. Saying no-one ever ventured off the trails is quite a claim.. Cap, winter approaches.. I sincerely doubt anything will change before it is over. GLuvsMtb 1
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Louzy, dracs, Gandalf and 2 others 5
Eddy Gordo Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Lol Yes Deon it is quite a claim, Should have said assuming no one did as the trees etc and lack of paths. I do understand from a safety aspect, but at the same there are parts were trees were already removed. Nature is tough and pretty soon things are gonna be starting to turn green and as soon as some rain comes its gonna help alot, just hopefully not too much rain as we dont need any xtreme mudslides (Deon) 1
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