shaper Posted October 29, 2019 Share The benefit for me would definitely be a shorter recovery period. I currently run in the Nike Pegasus and my inner shins take strain even on shorter runs. The price of the show is crazy though, it’s double most top of the range shoes. The Hoka One Carbon X also has similar tech in terms of the carbon plate but it’s a much more reasonable R 3 500.Agree on the price. I managed to pick my 4% up for R2700 when Nike were having a sale on in June. Am hoping they will have something similar for Black Friday. I train in the Zoom Fly Flyknits which also have the carbon plate, but a different foam to the 4%. The foam of the 4% also gives an added effect, more so than the flyknits (helps with the recovery). So just use the 4% for races only. The flynits I can pick up at the Nike Woodmead discount shop for R1400 so makes it palatable to pay a bit more for the 4% as a race shoe only. Edited October 29, 2019 by shaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Potgieter Posted October 29, 2019 Share Anyone have any experience with these? I am looking for a light off-road running shoe. Not hardcore trails. More running on paths and sand. Need something with more traction than a road shoe. Currently use the 4% for road running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b-rad Posted October 29, 2019 Share Anyone have any experience with these?I am looking for a light off-road running shoe. Not hardcore trails. More running on paths and sand. Need something with more traction than a road shoe. Currently use the 4% for road running. Adjustments.JPGI have the Pegasus 36 Trail. Have only used them once but they are similar to the Pegasus 35/36 road shoe. Probably a good option as a fairly light trail shoe for basis off-roading. Do you need the Gore Tex version though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted October 29, 2019 Share According to articles on the www the 4% only helps if you go faster than 4:30/km. Something to do with the carbon boost going in the wrong direction if you toe off too slow. Also, strictly for longer distances, it is slower than other specialist shoes on very fast runs <10km. Then the run is too much on the forefoot, not loading the carbon plate enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted October 29, 2019 Share Made a fun visi training shirt for the Soweto Marathon Expo this weekend... going to be a new experience for us. Who all is running? Two worries, this heat and then recovering from the Saturday Rugby - win or lose... Soweto - Marathons of the World.jpgDoing the half Andrew Steer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Potgieter Posted October 29, 2019 Share I have the Pegasus 36 Trail. Have only used them once but they are similar to the Pegasus 35/36 road shoe. Probably a good option as a fairly light trail shoe for basis off-roading. Do you need the Gore Tex version though?Auckland is a Maori word for rain and mud. (That’s probably not true, but it should be) Lexx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted October 30, 2019 Share Anyone have any experience with these? I am looking for a light off-road running shoe. Not hardcore trails. More running on paths and sand. Need something with more traction than a road shoe. Currently use the 4% for road running. Adjustments.JPGLook at the Altra Superior 4.. https://thesavage.biz/collections/altra-mens/products/superior-4-0-mens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottCM Posted October 30, 2019 Share No.. Running Dublin this Sunday I see that next year it's a ballot entry system like London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBee Posted October 30, 2019 Share Jewbacca, I'd normally say the same, or Peregrines, but AFAIK the 4% is 10mm drop, which is a bit far off the 0 drop Altra or the 4mm of the Peregrine to just chop and change. But there may be more flexible people in that regard than me. Jewbacca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gifs Posted October 30, 2019 Share For those wanting a deeper understanding of how these latest Nikes work, here is a great (though long!) podcast about it:https://play.acast.com/s/realscienceofsport/bee6a41a-0d6d-4d76-bfe8-f1c75f90f45a Roguemeister 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted October 30, 2019 Share I see that next year it's a ballot entry system like London.Everyone is up in arms about it. It's hardly a marathon that has masses of people trying to enter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter-za Posted October 30, 2019 Share If someone is interested: Run the TCS New York City Marathon - Virtual 26.2M race! There are four ways to participate this year. Depending on the tier you choose, you could either gain guaranteed entry to the 2020 TCS New York City Marathon, earn a finisher medal, or simply join the excitement of the largest marathon in the world!Choose one of four ways to participate in the TCS New York City Marathon - Virtual 26.2M this year, an experience that will inspire you, push you, and move you:- Run to Gain 2020 Guaranteed Entry- Run to Fundraise for NYRR Team for Kids- Run for the Medal- Run for the Love of RunningTo find out more about each of these tiers, click the register button. Strava NY Marathon Challenge NYRR Sweepstakes Rules Edited October 30, 2019 by Pieter-za Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candz1 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Mizuno on special on One day only today if anyone runs in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantMcD1 Posted October 30, 2019 Share According to articles on the www the 4% only helps if you go faster than 4:30/km. Something to do with the carbon boost going in the wrong direction if you toe off too slow. Also, strictly for longer distances, it is slower than other specialist shoes on very fast runs <10km. Then the run is too much on the forefoot, not loading the carbon plate enough.No benefit for most of the people I see wearing them then...at least now I can justify why I don’t “need” a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudsimus Posted October 30, 2019 Share No benefit for most of the people I see wearing them then...at least now I can justify why I don’t “need” a pair.I disagree with the 4:30m/km claims. Im a slow runner. And my marathon PB went from 4h15 to 3h58 the first time I used these shoes, same amount of training. I bettered my 5k TT time by 90s, went from 21:30 to sub 20 in one week. Big pace difference between the marathon and 5k, but I could definitely feel and see a big difference thanks to the shoes. My legs were also much less sore after the marathon, but my feet took a beating thanks to the carbon plate. tjommies3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b-rad Posted October 30, 2019 Share I see Ben Parkes is doing UTCTAnd his name is in for Comrades Stretch and Hacc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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