Tumbleweed Posted February 5, 2016 Share Lets see how they animal farm this one...... Don't drop the ball KV..... Wait, we haven't had a thread about rumours that KV's selling the Epic for a while as we usually do... Maybe he's keen to flog it because, well, you know, cyclists and dope and all that negative stuff... Gen and rouxtjie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptor-22 Posted February 5, 2016 Share You mean the Controversial tue for corticosteroids during the tour of romandie?And therein lies the rub. Froome being a high profile rider gets a TUE during an event. In SA riders apply and days later nothing.... Are professionals supposed to ignore sponsorship obligations while they wait for bureaucratic bungling to delay what should be a simple process. If local riders are getting caught out by bureaucracy then is it fair to label them cheats? Underachiever and mazambaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptor-22 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Well the Epic had a rule against rogue riders. If you are caught riding over private property, no more epic for you. Then Sauser was caught on Lourensford, a huge hoohah was made about it, the epic back pedalled on their rule, and Suzy went on to win again. Zero credibility left.The name grandstand management is appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedbadat Posted February 5, 2016 Share the thing i concluded out of all these doper stories is that cycling is actually bad for your health, "pros" who do this whole bicycle riding thing properly unlike me a useless weekend warrior are the most at risk and suffer the most. just warning you guys maybe consider some other safer sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted February 5, 2016 Share You mean the Controversial tue for corticosteroids during the tour of romandie?And therein lies the rub. Froome being a high profile rider gets a TUE during an event. In SA riders apply and days later nothing....Are professionals supposed to ignore sponsorship obligations while they wait for bureaucratic bungling to delay what should be a simple process. If local riders are getting caught out by bureaucracy then is it fair to label them cheats? It's not excusing anything, but I agree with your sentiment. SAIDS don't exactly come across the most efficient nor trustworthy organisation. Underachiever and raptor-22 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted February 5, 2016 Share You mean the Controversial tue for corticosteroids during the tour of romandie?And therein lies the rub. Froome being a high profile rider gets a TUE during an event. In SA riders apply and days later nothing....Are professionals supposed to ignore sponsorship obligations while they wait for bureaucratic bungling to delay what should be a simple process. If local riders are getting caught out by bureaucracy then is it fair to label them cheats?Yes...they are. Its the process. Using sponsorship obligations is a cop out, a very convenient one. They must inform their sponsors of the medical issue and the protocol involved. TALUS, Gen, the nerd and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted February 5, 2016 Share It's not excusing anything, but I agree with your sentiment. SAIDS don't exactly come across the most efficient nor trustworthy organisation.For all we know they only tested those 3 samples in January of this year.. What was the masking agent they found in Impey's sample again.. I forgot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underachiever Posted February 5, 2016 Share Interesting... My initial reaction - another doper.. great that she got busted!! But Coincidentally I watched the Namib Quest MTB race last night that I PVRed a while back. They had an interview with Yolande. Mother of 3 kinds - that are out of school already, so she's probably my age (40+). Oudtshoorn resident, racing for Sasol ladies, but not a pro. She struck me as a Klein Karoo soul that enjoys cycling - down to earth, no chip on her shoulder, etc, etc, etc. We'll probably never know all the true facts on this case, but up until all the facts surface, I will not carry a pitch fork. I just have another feeling on this one. Edited February 5, 2016 by Underachiever Tromp, mtbee, Scotty P and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted February 5, 2016 Share At least he got his before racing. If he raced without one, well bye bye Mr RuleBreakerSure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted February 5, 2016 Share So many stories and so many keyboard judges. hehehehhehe.Not one of the stories here correlates with what I heard.But that is not for me to tell. But what I can say is that this one I won't judge on this one. The story that I heard is a case of "it could have happened to any us" type thing. It if is true. The big problem is, people lie. And no one knows what or who to believe. So.........2 names down..1 to go? Tumbleweed, mazambaan, Baaisikilist and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerouc Posted February 5, 2016 Share from wikipediaHydrochlorothiazide was detected in the urine of the Russian cyclist Alexandr Kolobnev during the 2011 Tour de France.[14] Kolobnev was the only cyclist to leave the 2011 race in connection with adverse findings at a doping control.[15] While hydrochlorothiazide is not itself a performance-enhancing drug, it may be used to mask the use of performance-enhancing drugs, and is classed by the World Anti-Doping Agency as a "specified substance". Kolobnev was subsequently cleared of all charges of intentional doping.[16][17] raptor-22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted February 5, 2016 Share First question - how do you know? Second question - you seem to imply that she did get the TUE, but that the process was flawed, and if so, what was the flaw?Or the medication changed without the athlete knowing about it and did not check? Tumbleweed, Baaisikilist, ewep and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerouc Posted February 5, 2016 Share So many stories and so many keyboard judges. hehehehhehe.Not one of the stories here correlates with what I heard.But that is not for me to tell. But what I can say is that this one I won't judge on this one. The story that I heard is a case of "it could have happened to any us" type thing. It if is true. So.........2 down..1 to go? ja dit help nou net mooi niks. Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted February 5, 2016 Share Sure about that?If I am wrong please correct me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerouc Posted February 5, 2016 Share Or the medication changed without the athlete knowing about it and did not check?if you are a "pro" athlete you are supposed to check/double check/tripple check anything you take in? fanievb, rpedro and Patchelicious 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted February 5, 2016 Share if you are a "pro" athlete you are supposed to check/double check/tripple check anything you take in?Agreed. Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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