Dopers suck

[J Wakefield]

Honest question though... how would you know? I'd assume you coach a few, but outside of your guys?

From my understanding the testing is almost non-existent, there is a fair amount of money to throw around, and a equal dose of ego and competition to add to the mix.

 

Unfortunately I don't know as it is pointed out. 

[Jewbacca]

Unfortunately I don't know as it is pointed out. 

hahahaha 

 

You just made my day!

 

Doping is like buying followers on Instagram.... 

[jcza]

Bikehub logic....Pro peloton is clean but licenced and Engen riders are not. Comedy gold 

[Patchelicious]

Bikehub logic....Pro peloton is clean but licenced and Engen riders are not. Comedy gold

JCZA logic. A few opinions now equals BikeHub logic. Cynicism gold.

 

Neither are clean.

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[Patchelicious]

A vet just won Worlds.... so ja ????

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[jcza]

A vet just won Worlds.... so ja [emoji441]

Sometimes the script just writes itself....I suppose LOL is the only appropriate response [emoji23]

[gtr1]

A vet just won Worlds.... so ja

'Former' doper..................

[J Wakefield]

A vet just won Worlds.... so ja

 

From the Engen group?

[Patchelicious]

From the Engen group?

No, Valverde wouldn’t stand a chance there.

[Quagga]

'Former' doper..................

Who won?

[Andrew Steer]

Unfortunately I don't know as it is pointed out. 

Hope no offence was taken, just an honest question - your insights are always greatly valued 

[gtr1]

Who won?

Valverde

[Quagga]

Valverde

FACEPALM

[gtr1]

I don't really have an issue with Valverde winning. It was a great and exciting race. And he rode it perfectly. He doped, paid the price, came back. I'd like to think that current doping controls means he can't still be doping, so too most the peleton. (I believe in fairy tales)

 

My only issue is how people can crucify 1 rider as an ex-doper and others are regarded as heroes. Should all be equal.

 

I suppose at the end of the day, it's who we like and who we don't.

[peetwindhoek]

I don't really have an issue with Valverde winning. It was a great and exciting race. And he rode it perfectly. He doped, paid the price, came back. I'd like to think that current doping controls means he can't still be doping, so too most the peleton. (I believe in fairy tales)

 

My only issue is how people can crucify 1 rider as an ex-doper and others are regarded as heroes. Should all be equal.

 

I suppose at the end of the day, it's who we like and who we don't.

 

Some are more equal than others...

[Pure Savage]

I don't really have an issue with Valverde winning. It was a great and exciting race. And he rode it perfectly. He doped, paid the price, came back. I'd like to think that current doping controls means he can't still be doping, so too most the peleton. (I believe in fairy tales)

 

My only issue is how people can crucify 1 rider as an ex-doper and others are regarded as heroes. Should all be equal.

 

I suppose at the end of the day, it's who we like and who we don't.

He never admitted the doping, he just took a holiday in 2011. 

 

As if the biggest bust in doping never happened, zero remorse. Thats why people dont like him. 

 

We crucify people that have never tested positive but this bell end wins a world champs after being popped and we supposed to be like, meh, well done.