Gen Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) The fans stop watching. The TV paycheck goes away, and so do the salaries.Yeah erm they actually make zero money from fans or broadcasting rights.. teams do not share in broadcasting revenue.. that all goes to the organisers. Sure if everyone stops watching there is no cycling.. but to say they ride for the fans is nonsense They found themselves to be pretty good cyclist and are lucky enough to make a living from it.. same as any pro sportsman. Edited August 31, 2020 by Gen dsw and Danger Dassie 2
Pure Savage Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 The fans stop watching. The TV paycheck goes away, and so do the salaries.Seeing as last year was one of the best years and Ineos won, I am sure they are not too worried. https://www.cyclingopinions.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/TV-Viewing-Professional-Road-Cycling-2019.pdf
Gen Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/1300393710979555328?s=19 [emoji102] Hailstorm on col de la Faye https://t.co/nwO4v6z58R Vetplant 1
TNT1 Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 can't remember details of any tour since 1999 except 2011So, you just stopped watching the TdF?There have been some pretty epic battles since then. Contador-Lance; Wiggo - Froome; as well as some epic rides, Lance on the Ventoux, Lance on Hautacam, Contador vs Andy (chaingate) Froome running uphill.Geez. Pure Savage, Long Wheel Base and DieselnDust 3
matthieup Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 1986 How books and documentaries on that tour de France.Lemond expected Hinault to ride in front and lead out Lemond whenever necessary. Hinault decides that Lemond must show some chatzpah and come take the yellow jersey.Lemond moaning about his team mateHinault, tomorrow we race again/ best tour ever. I can remember every stage of tha tour.can't remember details of any tour since 1999 except 2011 when Tommie I'm in pain Voeckler was in yellow for 11 days oh that I remember being on the side of the road on the climb to alpe d'huez as a 8 yr old lightie... it was mad DieselnDust and Long Wheel Base 2
matthieup Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 the indurain years were crap. do nothing and wait for the time trial... DieselnDust 1
bertusras Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 WTF? The books?????? We are cyclists not accountants! ( well, ok I am an accountant - full disclosure) Let the sodding Ineos outfit P*ss off and read books This is the TDF. not a local junior crit whose result gets posted in the local free rag outside SPAR. They are not racing for the books. They are racing for me and you, the fans. Let them go out and F**********king earn strava segments if thats all they want Perhaps you wanna tell us how you really feel? You're right, they're not racing for the books, and it is the TDF. And they want to win it. That's all that matters. They don't care if you find their racing boring, if it's what gets them the yellow jersey after 3 weeks in France, they're gonna do it. (by the way, Top 3 bikes yesterday were all on disk brakes...) Gen, Pure Savage and Danger Dassie 3
TNT1 Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 the indurain years were crap. do nothing and wait for the time trial...Two words for you (ok, I could give you many)Chiappucci Sestriere .
DieselnDust Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) Yeah erm they actually make zero money from fans or broadcasting rights.. teams do not share in broadcasting revenue.. that all goes to the organisers. Sure if everyone stops watching there is no cycling.. but to say they ride for the fans is nonsense They found themselves to be pretty good cyclist and are lucky enough to make a living from it.. same as any pro sportsman. well not complete nonsens. They do ride for all of the above:Fans,pay checksinfamybook deals (retirement plan) movie deals (if your name is Lance Armstrong) its like a regular job, you work with a group of people to acheive an outcome.Sponsors want exposure. days in a Jersey assures good exposure,getting caught doping isn't But there's no bad publicity. just try to the keep the ad as sort lived as possible.In Sales they refer to share of wallet.in televised sports to the talk of share of airtime (or exposure) What it isn't is a popularity contest, its Not Survivor but it is at a certain level. Probably closer to the bachelor...essentially its guys (and gals) trying to rise above the pile and increase their net worth. Some with do that with their legs (lemond, Hinault, Merckx et al, others with needles ( cue the confessional) The marketing of their achievements has benefit to both rider, team and sponsors long term, not just in the moment of LeTour. For Example, La Vie Claire team kitis still highly sort after as is Z Vetements, and others (Pity La Vie Claire no longer exists as a company but the books talking to the era still sell. Its all about extracting maximum brand value Edited August 31, 2020 by DieselnDust
TNT1 Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 well not complete nonsens. They do ride for all of the above:Fans,pay checksinfamybook deals (retirement plan) movie deals (if your name is Lance Armstrong) Lance did it for none of those things. There's a reason he and Eddy got on so well. Lance did it to win. DieselnDust 1
J Wakefield Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 With the Form(olo) that Formolo is in, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes on that number 2 workload. But ja, I guess taking Kristoff AND having GC hopes is always a gamble with 8 team members.Viking is here as support for flat stages and is free to sprint should he want. Team has 1 focus only. TNT1, Long Wheel Base, Gen and 4 others 7
shaper Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 And back to the racing, heavy rain and miserable, raincoats on.... not many smiles, still 147.5kms to go Pure Savage 1
DieselnDust Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 So, you just stopped watching the TdF?There have been some pretty epic battles since then. Contador-Lance; Wiggo - Froome; as well as some epic rides, Lance on the Ventoux, Lance on Hautacam, Contador vs Andy (chaingate) Froome running uphill.Geez. LOL ok let me be more clear. I can recall far more memories from the 1986 tour than I can from the recent tours combined. I can't remember the Armstrong tours because the men in black wiped out my 7 tours memory. matthieup, Underachiever and TNT1 3
Gen Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) And back to the racing, heavy rain and miserable, raincoats on.... not many smiles, still 147.5kms to goThey can't catch a break.. yet even with the all 4 season in a day and season turning...we'll still have a flippen dry Roubaix [emoji24] Edited August 31, 2020 by Gen
DieselnDust Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 Lance did it for none of those things. There's a reason he and Eddy got on so well. Lance did it to win. not just to win. to Win, rub the noses of other dopers in the win (basically everyone bar Cadel Evans cos he was so clean he's voice got squeaky), p*ss all over Cofidis for dropping him in his darkest hour, and to just dominate the tour in every way possible but I can't really remember
Vetplant Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 Viking is here as support for flat stages and is free to sprint should he want. Team has 1 focus only.Ai... will you kindly break the news to him softly that in that case I will need to sub him out of my fantasy team. Was hoping for a serious go at the Green from The Viking. On the flipside, happy to hear Pogacar has full team support behind him.
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