Pure Savage Posted December 27, 2019 Share Hope all the Sanparks officials lose the jobs, some new blood will be good for Sanparks. nathrix and DJR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted December 27, 2019 Share DJR and kosmonooit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted December 27, 2019 Share Made the Beebs https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/50925301 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted December 27, 2019 Share 5'8'' translate into Afrikaans please scrumhalf DJR, AdamA, jimmycool and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren_G Posted December 27, 2019 Share scrumhalfSkinny scrumhalf Hairy, AdamA, DJR and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted December 27, 2019 Share I see all from Sanparks that are involved have been suspended. Probably did this to the person with the most pull in SA. They should re deploy sanparks to the cape flats to sort out the gangsters as they have solved all the murder and robbery on the mountain.Not that their suspensions will help Nic in the early part of the season...hopefully at least this will bring some change to the way they go about their work. FFS ..this is going to put him back ..argh I also hope he drags them to court in a civil suit Edited December 27, 2019 by Gen DJR and Vetplant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted December 27, 2019 Share "did you got a permit"Â The more things change, the more they stay the same. CrankShaft, DieselnDust and nonky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted December 27, 2019 Share Willie Wallie weighs in .. Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edition 507 Posted December 27, 2019 Share The moral of the story here is simple, obey the rules! This is something South Africans habitually flout. There is one simple word for law and order and harmony and that is 'comply'. nonky, Dicky DQ and SwissVan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Also-oldschool Posted December 27, 2019 Share I worked for NPB a number of years ago as a student. Also worked on Table Mountain as part of CTC Law Enforcement as student when CT still managed table mountain. Unless things changef drastically over the years I don't think NPB Rangers can arrest people - unless crime is very serious such as poaching or arson. They can detain and then get SAPS to do the arrest. This is kind of ironic - if I'm not mistaken then one of the most senior anti poaching rangers in Kruger was suspended/dismissed a month or so ago for pushing one of their own around after he was caught poaching. Pushing around, not breaking an arm. These rangers deserve what's coming their way.Think the NPB beancounters need to go sharpen their pencils, they need to push that budget around to get some fat into the "civil claims" account. TMNP need to realise that ALL civies on the mountain pays their salaries and that are custodians of the mountain and not owners. They need to respect visitors and get them on TMNPs side and not do their best to alienate them. BTW the ranger demanding that the video recording be stopped because it's not allowed is a obviously not a "trained official" Fool Pure Savage, tubed, CrankShaft and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezer Posted December 28, 2019 Share These rangers were wrong and they knew it finnish and klaar. They could just as well used the video to their advantage, but they did not want to be filmed. They knew they were wrong, thats why they tell him to stop recording. jdwet1980, DJR, Vetplant and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted December 28, 2019 Share We can separate two issues here. 1.We South Africans ignore rules too easily. Across the board. Nic might have ridden rouge, but this hasn't been confirmed. Nic should be made to pay the appropriate fine if found to have been in the wrong on that aspect.  2. The ranger used excessive force. This we do have evidence of in the video. There is no way Nic was thought to be a poacher or murderer, the ranger went MMA on him for a fineable offence.  Supporting the one point does not mean that you HAVE TO shoot down the 2nd point... both can be valid. Traveler, Watcher, DJR and 14 others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted December 28, 2019 Share We can separate two issues here. 1.We South Africans ignore rules too easily. Across the board. Nic might have ridden rouge, but this hasn't been confirmed. Nic should be made to pay the appropriate fine if found to have been in the wrong on that aspect. 2. The ranger used excessive force. This we do have evidence of in the video. There is no way Nic was thought to be a poacher or murderer, the ranger went MMA on him for a fineable offence. Supporting the one point does not mean that you HAVE TO shoot down the 2nd point... both can be valid.That's my point. Yes the rangers were wrong, but so was Nic. If it turns out (which has been reported) that he ignored the guy at the gate, ignored multiple requests to stop, was wilfully trespassing etc then we have to ask a question... If you were the ranger, and some guy repeatedly ignored you while you tried to do your job, how would you react? I would want to catch the guy.  I wouldn't rough him up, but I would want to catch him to make a point.  It's really really sad that Nic will miss TDU, but I can't help but keep feeling like he got himself into this really terrible situation. ChrisF, stefmeister, Mousea and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted December 28, 2019 Share As someone who have just spent 4 months totally off the bike with a broken arm and after that 4 more long months of slow and painful physio and rehab, to slowly build up to get the muscles strong enough to lift just the arm itself, not even a weight. Starting to ride again, nearly unable to hold the bars, and barely managing 15 minutes the first time, let alone spend 4 hours on a bike. I have to pick Nicks' side. Nobody deserves a broken arm for anything that he could have done to the heavy handed ranger, for any permit infringement he might or might not have committed! Footnote: That broken arm will cost him over a R100 000 just in medical expenses. Not even talking of rehab and lost earnings. That can run into many hundreds of thousands while expenses keep piling up. However they repair that arm, Nick is not going to ride and be his best for a whole season. In cycling that is an eternity. It is also possible that he will not regain full function and range of movement in that elbow. All of which to just say, I feel for him, I feel it in my own right arm! bunkermonkey, Hairy, Velouria and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergy Posted December 28, 2019 Share it's become the norm here,that anybody who thinks they are special,feel that the laws don't apply to them,and that they are above the law due to self importance secondly,the moment a person of authority tries to do his job,every tom ,dick and harry is shoving a camera in his face,put yourself in their position just for one day,where everytime you try and do something,somebody is in your face with a cell fone camera.I know,that i would either lose my ****,or say f***it and walk away and do nothing,and when that happens everybody squeels. yes they were heavy handed,but lets wait for the full story, a person does not go full "chuck norris": for no reason ChrisF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummibear Posted December 28, 2019 Share Now trending on Luxembourg,French and Belgium cycling groups.  Cette violence portée envers Nic Dlamini, aussi gratuite que démesurée, est écoeurante. Le pauvre gars s'est quand même fait péter le bras puis balancer dans le coffre comme un chien...  Alors qu'il faisait juste un tour de vélo. Quel crime ! On veut bien admettre qu'il ait fauté (interdiction de rouler dans le parc naturel), mais la démesure de la réaction en face fait peine à voir. Vidéo : Lawrence Lindeque worriesnot and DJR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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