Coronavirus lockdown and exercising outdoors

[TNT1]

My fiance PHONED the department of health this morning and asked if the wearing of masks is a legal requirement.

 

IT IS NOT!!

 

Yes shops have right of admission so they can tell you no mask no shop. But it's not a legal requirement.

 

Some retard sent a wattsapp to their complex chat to say that it's been gazetted. But once again it was a bullshirt story.

Yup I had a go at our community WA admin over letting some poephol post the same garbage on the group.

[Duane_Bosch]

 

https://www.gov.za/documents/disaster-management-act-regulations-29-apr-2020-0000

 

Movement of persons

16. (1) Every person is confined to his or her place of residence.

(2) A person may only leave their place of residence to--

(a) perform an essential or permitted service, as allowed in Alert Level 4;

(b) go to work where a permit which corresponds with Form 2 of Annexure A, has been issued;

© buy permitted goods;

(d) obtain services that are allowed to operate as set out in Table 1 to the Regulations;

(e) move children, as allowed;

(f) walk, run or cycle between the hours of 06H00 to 09H00, within a five kilometre radius of their place of residence; Provided that this is not done in organised groups

(3) Every person is confined to his or her place of residence from 20H00 until 05H00 daily, except where a person has been granted a permit to perform an essential or permitted service as listed in Annexure D, or is attending to a security or medical emergency .

(4) Movement between provinces, metropolitan areas and districts are prohibited  except-

(a) for workers who have a permit to perform an essential or permitted service who have to commute to and from work on a daily basis;

(b) the attendance of a funeral, as allowed;

© the transportation of mortal remains; and

(d) for learners who have to commute to and from school or higher education institutions on a daily basis during periods when those institutions are permitted to operate.

 

Where in there does it say I have to shop in my hood?

[Jbr]

 

My fiance PHONED the department of health this morning and asked if the wearing of masks is a legal requirement.

 

IT IS NOT!!

 

 

Well then I'll jump off my high horse and agree with some of you on the stupidity of all these rules     

[TNT1]

 

https://www.gov.za/documents/disaster-management-act-regulations-29-apr-2020-0000

 

Movement of persons

16. (1) Every person is confined to his or her place of residence.

(2) A person may only leave their place of residence to--

(a) perform an essential or permitted service, as allowed in Alert Level 4;

(b) go to work where a permit which corresponds with Form 2 of Annexure A, has been issued;

© buy permitted goods;

(d) obtain services that are allowed to operate as set out in Table 1 to the Regulations;

(e) move children, as allowed;

(f) walk, run or cycle between the hours of 06H00 to 09H00, within a five kilometre radius of their place of residence; Provided that this is not done in organised groups

(3) Every person is confined to his or her place of residence from 20H00 until 05H00 daily, except where a person has been granted a permit to perform an essential or permitted service as listed in Annexure D, or is attending to a security or medical emergency .

(4) Movement between provinces, metropolitan areas and districts are prohibited  except-

(a) for workers who have a permit to perform an essential or permitted service who have to commute to and from work on a daily basis;

(b) the attendance of a funeral, as allowed;

© the transportation of mortal remains; and

(d) for learners who have to commute to and from school or higher education institutions on a daily basis during periods when those institutions are permitted to operate.

 

See, it's all make believe. I travel across metros to collect my daughter from her mother's house. Legally. It's not in your quote. 

 

Also, I am allowed to shop at Makro? They are the only place that stocks the replacement filters for my inline water filtration system. The closest Makro to me is outside of my district.

 

Actually, where's the map to go with this made up nonsense? What's a district? Where's my district?

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

The National Communist Command Committee under NDZ has fortunately not put a distance limit on where one may travel to procure one's daily rations.

Yeah, there's no explicit distance, it just stipulates metros, districts and provinces. 

 

If this doesn't mean what I think it means, then cool. But as far as I understod it, travel between neighbourhoods / districts etc wasn't allowed. 

 

EDIT: COCT is a single district. Therefore she was within her rights, in terms of the regulations. 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

My fiance PHONED the department of health this morning and asked if the wearing of masks is a legal requirement.

 

IT IS NOT!!

 

Yes shops have right of admission so they can tell you no mask no shop. But it's not a legal requirement.

 

Some retard sent a wattsapp to their complex chat to say that it's been gazetted. But once again it was a bullshirt story.

yeah, agreed. Hope that person got corrected. 

 

EDIT: Seems we're all wrong, and it now is gazzetted. 

 

This is the uncertainty we don't need. 

[MTBeer]

Yeah, there's no explicit distance, it just stipulates metros, districts and provinces. 

 

If this doesn't mean what I think it means, then cool. But as far as I understod it, travel between neighbourhoods / districts etc wasn't allowed. 

I guess the question is "what is a district?" Neighbourhood is not mentioned in the regulations.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

See, it's all make believe. I travel across metros to collect my daughter from her mother's house. Legally. It's not in your quote. 

 

Also, I am allowed to shop at Makro? They are the only place that stocks the replacement filters for my inline water filtration system. The closest Makro to me is outside of my district.

 

Actually, where's the map to go with this made up nonsense? What's a district? Where's my district?

It's in there. 16.2.E

 

Dunno... 

 

Eish

 

don't touch them on their studio. 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I guess the question is "what is a district?" Neighbourhood is not mentioned in the regulations.

I *think* it may have been one of those tweets I've decided not to pay attention to until the official word is out.... 

 

I was just amused at the indignation in Robbie's post. She took a chance, she got caught. 

 

EDIT: COCT is a single district. Therefore she was within her rights, in terms of the regulations. 

[bertusras]

In case this hasn't already been posted

 

https://twitter.com/pierredevos/status/1260163234914541569

[Duane_Bosch]

 

 

I was just amused at the indignation in Robbie's post. She took a chance, she got caught. 

She didn't take a chance. She was within her rights. The police were abusing their powers.

 

It's not amusing at all. It's scary to me that stupid people support the stupid police in the process of making up stupid laws on the fly. 

[MORNE]

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What's a district? Where's my district?

in the WC atleast....these are the district municipalities....so it would probably mean that you are only able to move within each of those numbered areas if you live in it....which is already larger than the claimed "neighbourhood only" rule imo.

 

edit...i for instance can go shopping in Gordans Bay if i choose to according to this...but not durbanville LOL

 

https://www.westerncape.gov.za/general-publication/municipalities-western-cape

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Okay, so COCT is a single District municipality, and the cop was acting outside of the guidelines. 

 

Cool. I was wrong. Amended my posts accordingly. She should be able to get it squashed.

[TNT1]

in the WC atleast....these are the district municipalities....

Everywhere in the country has voting districts. I have seen no map of the districts spoken of in the Communist Manifesto Disaster Management Regulations. The way the muppets can't agree on anything makes me wonder if they would do something like use existing districts, as that would imply some forethought and intelligence, which seem to be lacking.

[MORNE]

yea unless they thought they meant this

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the ambiguity is just crazy though...

 

EDIT....but but i can exercise right out of my sub council/ward  during 6-9am

 

just dumb.

[dave303e]

She didn't take a chance. She was within her rights. The police were abusing their powers.

 

It's not amusing at all. It's scary to me that stupid people support the stupid police in the process of making up stupid laws on the fly. 

 

seeing as you are so vocal about it. What have you done to change it?

Have you taken legal actions against the laws? Have you started a political campaign against it?

 

or is it facebook and bikehub politics only?