Cape Town danger areas

[Murrob]

As received on WhatsApp groups, Franschoek pass has had 2 kidnapping incidents in the last 24-72 hours. 
 

1st incident 

‘Franschhoek pas, taxi met drie swart gewapende mans het my 17:20 van my fiets af gestamp, fiets berg af gegooi, my in die taxi gegooi , en hulle het eers R100 000 gesoek, hulle het tot in Grabouw gery met my , my in die veld gevat, hulle het op die ou einde 50k uit my uit nadat ek rond en bond probeer geld secure, ek ht niks meer gehad, hulle het my GOD dank vry gelaat by BP garage in Grabouw 20:15 , unharmed. ek het immediate transfer gedoen, hulle stel nie belang aan fietse of goed, hulle soek Geld, en baie, hulle is kwaai en gee nie om of jy nie geld het nie, hulle my met geweer gedreig. belowe ek sal fine wees as hulle geld kry. dink hulle is locals by Grabouw maar hulle is van ZIM af, nie SA’

2nd was last night

‘Please take care, my daughter and her friend were hijacked/ kidnapped last night on Franschoek pass. The kidnappers wanted a ransom. They are safe now and not hurt. Not safe to stop there any more’

Confirmed on bikes as well.

Not sure if anyone else has info, same mo by the sounds of it. At first I was not convinced cyclists are being targeted specifically, but now I am not so sure. Seems too much of coincidence that repeat incident in such a short space of time on the same pass. Same perpetrators? 

[Bonus]

Holy ****!

[Meezo]

1 hour ago, Thomo said:

On the back of this which I saw on a whatsapp group ... 😡

That reservoir is quite isolated and at 5pm... Flip man!

The tokai incident is scary on a fairly busy day in tokai 

... I'm lost for words on the Franschhoek incidents! Seems like targetted attacks? I dunno!!

[ChrisF]

30 minutes ago, Bonus said:

Holy ****!

 

And it was a coin flip if I did Bains or Franschhoek today ....

[mikkelz]

Zwift seems pretty cheap in comparison to this bullsh*t. 🤬

[Mamil]

Surely if someone has a bank account to receive instant EFTs that account is associated with a confirmed Identity document or passport and therefore easily traceable?

 

[V18]

Or cloned card/account for once off transfer and draw. 

 

[Thomo]

9 hours ago, mikkelz said:

Zwift seems pretty cheap in comparison to this bullsh*t. 🤬

I was keen to ride this morning and then all of this ... so I guess it's a little IDT session this morning. ☹

[DJR]

This is a really ****** up world

[splat]

14 hours ago, Murrob said:

As received on WhatsApp groups, Franschoek pass has had 2 kidnapping incidents in the last 24-72 hours. 
 

1st incident 

‘Franschhoek pas, taxi met drie swart gewapende mans het my 17:20 van my fiets af gestamp, fiets berg af gegooi, my in die taxi gegooi , en hulle het eers R100 000 gesoek, hulle het tot in Grabouw gery met my , my in die veld gevat, hulle het op die ou einde 50k uit my uit nadat ek rond en bond probeer geld secure, ek ht niks meer gehad, hulle het my GOD dank vry gelaat by BP garage in Grabouw 20:15 , unharmed. ek het immediate transfer gedoen, hulle stel nie belang aan fietse of goed, hulle soek Geld, en baie, hulle is kwaai en gee nie om of jy nie geld het nie, hulle my met geweer gedreig. belowe ek sal fine wees as hulle geld kry. dink hulle is locals by Grabouw maar hulle is van ZIM af, nie SA’

2nd was last night

‘Please take care, my daughter and her friend were hijacked/ kidnapped last night on Franschoek pass. The kidnappers wanted a ransom. They are safe now and not hurt. Not safe to stop there any more’

Confirmed on bikes as well.

Not sure if anyone else has info, same mo by the sounds of it. At first I was not convinced cyclists are being targeted specifically, but now I am not so sure. Seems too much of coincidence that repeat incident in such a short space of time on the same pass. Same perpetrators? 

So, modern banking is online with all your accounts connected - Bond, Check, Credit, Savings and in my case, my business account. it would be scary if someone got hold of my phone and cleared that all out. So, a cheap non-smart phone may be a good idea for cycling.

But taking you to the ATM at gun point would circumvent the phone story. So, one would need to have transfer and payment limits on your accounts. But these limits may be a problem for day to  day functioning.

Demanding a ransom circumvents that story too.
What a sh!t show! 

[ChrisF]

53 minutes ago, splat said:

So, modern banking is online with all your accounts connected - Bond, Check, Credit, Savings and in my case, my business account. it would be scary if someone got hold of my phone and cleared that all out. So, a cheap non-smart phone may be a good idea for cycling.

But taking you to the ATM at gun point would circumvent the phone story. So, one would need to have transfer and payment limits on your accounts. But these limits may be a problem for day to  day functioning.

Demanding a ransom circumvents that story too.
What a sh!t show! 

 

I cycle with an old pre-paid phone .... NO banking stuff on this phone.

 

NO bank cards on my.

 

Garmin pay on the watch ... limited exposure

 

R200 note in the phone cover for emergencies.

 

 

 

Short of going full movie style randsom they are in for a bad day in the office.

 

 

Might just rename the wifes number ..... why make it easy for these @55h0les ....

[LazyTrailRider]

17 hours ago, splat said:

A mugging in Tokai on the way up to the mast this morning @ about 10:00.
3 x knife wielding youths. Phone and Garmin taken, but not the bike.

These are the bits of info that I have gathered so far...

Anyone have any more info about this?

[Murrob]

Yeah, gotta say, this needs quick and proper intervention by the authorities, which seems unlikely. If this idea takes hold for wannabe and proper criminals that anyone exercising/cycling outside is a good target for a quick 50-100k ransom. Then it’s going to a huge issue. The discussion with bike jacking is to just handover and comply and let insurance deal with it. This is another ball game, I’m not sure pleading poverty with an 80k+ bike and your dumb phone is going to save you. So it’s either only cycle outside is groups, or armed…because once you are in that van there is precious little that is going to stop it. This scares me much more than the prospect of an armed hijacking and losing a bike.

[Andreas_187]

6 hours ago, DJR said:

This is a really ****** up world

This is a really****** up country.

Fixed it for you

[gkp]

5 hours ago, LazyTrailRider said:

Anyone have any more info about this?

We rode up to the mast around 09h00 - on the way down, we encountered the "muggee" - who had also been going to the mast. It seems 3 BMs jumped him on the steep part past the turnoff to the Bridle Path (so we assume the muggers watched us go past but figured too many of us to tackle - we were 5). The muggers had knives, so relieved the rider of his garmin, vario, and phone. They also slashed his tyres, so he had a long walk back. 

He seemed not to be injured, other than a couple of grazes where he had fallen off his bike, trying to turn and run, but was clearly in shock. We think SANparks went and collected him - we saw them on the way down and informed them, but they weren't all that hurried......

I believe mates in Tokai sorted him getting home.

We thought that the mugging site, which was a hotspot a few years ago, had become safe, but I guess it's back to group ascents of the mast for a while.

[olmec]

24 minutes ago, gkp said:

steep part past the turnoff to the Bridle Path

Would you mind marking this on the map please? I'm not sure where Bridle path is?