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10 minutes ago, DieselnDust said:@Headshotis stunned into silence at the length of that stem
Funny that his face doesn't show it, but you'd swear that stem angle was so he could rub his snoz on the front tyre?
I like the glitches and wrong naming the riders.,. adds to the entertainment and gives you something to b@tch about here and to whoever you're watching with. Its all part of the package,
My favourite is "Ciovita Orange/Yellow Jersey" which has to always be said together. At least its not the Absa Cape Epic presented by XXXXX and XXXXX or did I miss that?
How are those Spesh riders coping with thet enduro style HTA. The HTA I predicted about ten years ago for marathon and XC bikes but was always shot down by @DieselnDust 🙂
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23 hours ago, The Ouzo said:Entire thread dominated by pricing and pricing comparisons.
Jewbecca summarized everything at the top of the first page.
But I'll add to the debate.
Last year we launched our new hot hatch, close to 1bar. people had the same reactions, to expensive, I can get XYZ for cheaper wadda wadda wadda. We are still selling them, the price has creeped up to over a bar and they are still selling. And when we launch the replacement for this in a few years we'll get the same reactions.
Back to 2 wheels and the recently launched version of our superbike is close to R600k, its been out a month, all 3 units that were allocated to us have been sold. The one is not even going to be assembled, the guy is just buying it as a collectors item.
Brands will sell what their product at a price they have researched that their target market will buy them at. There will always be the initial shock reaction to the price, but once that desirability hits, the price is justified in their eyes and the product bought.
R600k for a BMW S1000RR (?) sounds like a bargain next to the S Works.
On 3/14/2024 at 8:45 AM, J Wakefield said:If you can’t afford it or like it, no need to bash it and justify why it’s over priced as a reason why you won’t buy it.
Spez will sell these bikes at this price in South Africa and every where else. I know a shop here that has an order list they can’t supply already on 1st drop.
they also selling 15-20k euro custom built up road bikes daily. Its pretty incredible to see.as with anything, there is a product for everyone and that’s great.
True, but as I've said before, the overpricing at the upper end has an effect down the line. If you overcharge for the top model you can also raise your prices through the range as you can see with this bike. No aluminium frame option either. Giant do an ali Anthem I believes but the local importers don't bring them in. So. I'm not sure there is actually a product for everyone, especially in the RSA.
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Let's just say this bike and it's cheaper siblings don't represent good value. An @Titan Racing represents far better value and most people won't notice the difference on the trail. Sadly hype sells bikes, and a whole lot more it seems.
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1 hour ago, leon_pro said:Is this a Sub 3 CTCT(argus) bike?
Go look in the road bike ads. A De Rosa sold as the CTCT winning bike for a bargain R149 999.
6 hours ago, Jewbacca said:By all means comment away. I'm remarking on how predictable the merry dance is every single time.
The same posters making the same comments every year.
It is hilarious.
And you making the same post about them every year too?
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17 hours ago, DieselnDust said:this is the challenge with bikes older than 2018, not all can accpet tyres volumous enough to cope with our roads
My 2005 9 speed accepts 25's and handles the cr@p roads fairly well...
I was in 4B but started with 5F along with wifey. Had fairly chilled ride dodging people and getting mini slipstream assistance from slower riders. Didn't manage to find anyone I could keep up with to get some proper assistance to Cape Point and my undertrained legs were toast by the time I got there. One chap objected to my overtake going in to the circle in Sea Point - he was hogging the right, as so many people seem to, but I still found a gap to his right to overtake. Not sure what he was upset about...
Wifey witnessed a nasty crash near Misty Cliffs. Rider looked back over his shoulder and as he did so twisted his bars and crashed hard. Heard later someone else crashed into him...
Well done to all!
3 hours ago, Shebeen said:I dunno, neither you nor I were there so let's not be the judge.
What we do have is a cyclist driving in his car getting irritated by cyclists' behaviour. I see enough people cycling badly that I won't defend all cyclists "just because". I know it's peak argus week, but in my recent anecdotal experience I can count a how bunch of random conversations where people have moaned about cyclists "owning the roads".
I totally get the point of @duringd's post, I don't think you do.
Was out on a windy but low traffic Sunday yesterday. Mostly pretty good behaviour but there is always that one guy @Hairy. Encountered him on Chappies ascent from NH. He was at the front of a small group I caught on the climb. The guys behind him and his buddy were unrelated I think, and in single file. He insisted on riding two abreast despite the fact that car traffic was patiently backing up behind us. I let him know but he either didn't hear me or chose to ignore it. Eventually i held back and waved the cars past and he was then obliged to line up on the left.
Later on the way down to HB there he was again, dawdling along two abreast on the descent, forcing me to overtake close to the center line.
Third strike - same guy at the top of Suikerbossie - pulled over chatting but he and his bike taking up most often the yellow lane people were riding in.
Not a youngster either, Just a fast asleep oblivious danger to those around him.
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22 hours ago, Mamil said:Oh god @Daleso sorry to hear this. Appalling what's happening.
Every prayer and strong wish for full recovery. So glad all the essential bits are intact.
Wow that's horrific. Hope thr recovery goes well and swiftly.
18 hours ago, Danger Dassie said:Beaut lid, reckon it’s well surpassed mid-range with the features and pricing though. R3600 is a fair whack of cash.
Agreed, what they smokin'?
Tiz?
1 hour ago, Matthew___robertson said:thanks yeah it was awhile ago so mostly healed but still can’t walk properly have to hobble around i have no clue how my frame didn’t crack 😂
Wow, that's really horrible, and real badge of honour stuff right there. 🙂
I am adding this to the list... Sealant on your bib is a badge of honour, much like chipped Kashima and a chipped eBike. It says, "My pants are messy but I ride so hard I could not be bovvered to take them to a dry cleaner".
I am not a fan of the look of the latest flat facing SRAM levers and these don't disappoint. They do seem to be very effective brakes though...
@Robbie StewartThat weather on Saturday was crazy - added about 22 minutes to our time for the same route the previous weekend.
Has anyone got an update on the recovery of the cyclist hit by the motorbike and the investigation?
That was a deserved win by Maddie. She klapped them in the final TT. Seems as if they liked her temperament too.
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14 minutes ago, dave303e said:You ever lost half your breaking capacity 180km into a 400km national offroad motorcycle race on a 2t with relatively no engine braking available... I have, that is why I am particular about what goes into my brakes.
We squeezed 4 of our bikes into a van with all kit and camping gear to go to the race and when we arrived I realised my brakes were super spongey. Could only get DOT3 brake fluid at the local town nearest the race and because we were so tight on space no one brought any. That fluid boiled after a few hours and it was a super fun day out for the rest of the day.
So I have my reasons, it is not a fun lesson to learn the hard way.
No I haven't. I have ridden a fastish 2s bike on the road though and I shudder to think what brake failure would be like. Which is why I referred to "MTB" brakes of which I have extensive experience over the last 30 years. They are not the same.
why does a top end MTB cost more than a motorbike?
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Not sure what you'd have to do to an KTM ADV 890R to make it "race ready" but most people who buy them use them just fine for all kinds of events that could be termed "races" in their normal guise. They come with top notch adjustable suspension, rider aids and electronics that make the Epic 8 look like a throwback. No race was won because of RS electronic suspension, just like the Brain didn't win anyone a race either.