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What?

So just because earth looks like a dot from really far away it makes willing to fight and die for what one believes to be right, meaningless? 

 

Does Carl Sagan's opinions about meaning also become less significant when considered from far away?

 

What a stupid remark.

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What?

So just because earth looks like a dot from really far away it makes willing to fight and die for what one believes to be right, meaningless? 

 

Does Carl Sagan's opinions about meaning also become less significant when considered from far away?

 

What a stupid remark.

the majority of deaths in wars are the result of inflated egos or small penis syndrome. I don't think "dying for what one believes is right " is really Sagan's point.

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What?

So just because earth looks like a dot from really far away it makes willing to fight and die for what one believes to be right, meaningless? 

 

Does Carl Sagan's opinions about meaning also become less significant when considered from far away?

 

What a stupid remark.

Carl Sagan's entire "Pale Blue Dot" for context...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5c59qUUnAY&t=0s&list=LLd2_dnlNA7LzgJIc-PM4ofQ&index=3

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Posted

What?

So just because earth looks like a dot from really far away it makes willing to fight and die for what one believes to be right, meaningless? 

 

Does Carl Sagan's opinions about meaning also become less significant when considered from far away?

 

What a stupid remark.

 

Piet "Jack-hammer" Botha said eloquently in "Goeienag generaal": "Generaal ry rond in sy blink, swart kar en speel skaak met die kinders van ons land."

 

How many of the soldiers that actually fight and die have a say in what their leaders believe to be right? There are very few just wars: Wars that I'd be willing to fight in, let alone  my son fight in. I believe fighting to stop Hitler was just, but him starting the war had no justification. This makes Sagan's statement relevant on that war. (Although I believe WW2 was a continuation of WW1, which was started  in 1914 when the Great Powers were all just lus to moer each other. BUT that is simplifying a complex issue over which there is no consensus by historians.

 

Therefore both WW1 & 2 aren't wars that I'd be willing to fight.

Posted

What?

So just because earth looks like a dot from really far away it makes willing to fight and die for what one believes to be right, meaningless? 

 

Does Carl Sagan's opinions about meaning also become less significant when considered from far away?

 

What a stupid remark.

Also - those wars he was / is referring to in that quote were wars of conquest or ideology.

 

If you have to fight to protect what is just, that's a different thing entirely. 

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the majority of deaths in wars are the result of inflated egos or small penis syndrome. I don't think "dying for what one believes is right " is really Sagan's point.

 

But Sagan is only interested in crossing the line first, no matter how you get there

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But Sagan is only interested in crossing the line first, no matter how you get there

even although the line is pretty meaningless. Cosmologically speaking that is...

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Piet "Jack-hammer" Botha said eloquently in "Goeienag generaal": "Generaal ry rond in sy blink, swart kar en speel skaak met die kinders van ons land."

 

How many of the soldiers that actually fight and die have a say in what their leaders believe to be right? There are very few just wars: Wars that I'd be willing to fight in, let alone  my son fight in. I believe fighting to stop Hitler was just, but him starting the war had no justification. This makes Sagan's statement relevant on that war. (Although I believe WW2 was a continuation of WW1, which was started  in 1914 when the Great Powers were all just lus to moer each other. BUT that is simplifying a complex issue over which there is no consensus by historians.

 

Therefore both WW1 & 2 aren't wars that I'd be willing to fight.

 

I took 20 years of my life listening to this EPIC podcast series last year.

 

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-50-blueprint-for-armageddon-i/

 

I do definitely not want to fight in WWI on the line.

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